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Edo Madara and Obito(Naruto) vs. Seven Deadly Sins(NNT)

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by Lord Valgaav, Sep 12, 2018.

  1. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

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    Location: War arc battlefield
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    Conditions/Restrictions: this is Rinnegan Obito. He gets his fan and can also summon GM if need be. Its morning.
    Mindset: IC

    Scenario 1: Speed equal, and we use Butterfly King

    Scenario 2: Speed unequal, and its kid King
     
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    Could not the meteor be BFR? :hmm

    Its a physical body after all.
     
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    You'd need to prove that she can BFR something that huge, also ... What are you gonna do about the second one, Onoki ?
     
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    This is true. Though she could always teleport the Sins away to avoid the damage then return them.

    Not sure what a difference it makes, but Chandler also dropped meteors on the Sins, and they were fine. His were notably much smaller though but it was a shower.
     
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    All sins together is just toi much
     
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    Edo Madara that can spam clones, each of which being able to use most of his techniques like genjutsu and shit?
     
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    Yes sir. :smoke

    But keep in mind the Sins have full knowledge.
     
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    Madara makes 5 Clones. Spam Meteors and Susano'o + The Mokuton that he can use to scatter the Sin and pick each one of them a part.

    With Full Knowledge Gowther and King become severely less threatening as does Merlin.
     
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    It'll take awhile, but the uchiha duo wins

    > Genjutsu
    > Perfect susano
    > Rinnegan hax
    > moukhtun
    > Infinite stamina for madara
    > Kamui BFR
    > Intangibility
     
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    Meliodas can make clones too.. island level clones. Hellblaze negates his regen and Obito is useless against characters with flight.
     
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    > Most of these guys don't even fly, and the ine's that due don't utilize it in battle.

    > clones that cut his power twice? His stats gets cut in half, eitherway he can't create 10 island level clones meanwhile madara created 25 susano which all used legged susano.

    Add in the fact that genjutsu is GG to any of the sins.
     
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    Gowther is actually a perfect counter to Genjutsu for the Sins.
     
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    Yea, but he himself is not resistant. He was TP'ed by Mael
     
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    naruto characters cant mindfuck gowther
     
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    He was immune to the Love bomb. The other attack he broke free from.
     
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    If bloodlusted gowther does not die within the first few seconds of this fight it’s over if we’re being completely honest
     
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    its over for who exactly?? The naruto duo?? Gowther is borderline useless against these two, the best he can do as someone noted is provide TP defence for his team mates, once he's taken care of they get genjutsu'ed.
     
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    The only useless Sin is Diane. Gowther's power should be effective on both Uchiha as its like Kotoamatsukami on steroids.
     
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    like kotoamatsuki?? Nigga what? How is it comparable to KA which outright controls opponents negg diff, might i add opponents with TP defence. The duo can resist gowthers mindfuck. Gowther's TP is not even as potent as tsukiyomi which can kill, and the likes of hebi sasuke could resist something on that level, let alone stronger opponents.
     
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    Gowther's power can make living creatures think they're rocks.

    He can completely rewrite someone's memory to where they forget their own brother they took care of like he was a stranger and instead think Gowther has been her lover for years.

    Demon King who is resistant to all magic has been mindfucked by Gowther along with the entire verse into believing a character named Estarossa existed and was his own son.

    He mindfucked Mael so hard he became a dark counterpart to himself and even became able to use demon powers whixh should normally be impossible.

    He can black out an entire town worth of people casually. Itachi, one of the best genjutsu-users in Naruto, is praised for being able to genjutsu multiple people at once.

    He mindfucked Gallen into believing he killed all the Sins. This same Gallen had sharp enough senses to escape being BFR by Merlin despite having zero knowledge of her abilities.

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    So yeah, Gowther has better feats of mindfuck. Good enough for these two anyway. :kannasip
     
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    > Thats mind manipulation feats, not really mind fuck like what tsukiyomi does, tsukiyomi grants its user control over time and space something gowther doesn't do.

    > gowther making a dumb creature think he is a rock isn't really impressive.

    > sharingan users could control beings

    > Gowther fooled a verse with no tp resistance sort of like what Aizen did, not impressive against a verse with tp resistance like narutoverse.

    > it just means the demon king has no TP resistance thats all.
     
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    And...how're Mads and Obito shrugging him off again? My point was against him being useless as you stated. The Uchiha can resist illusions, but how do they deal with memory hax to the point where Gowther is a non-factor?
     
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    By them having TP defence thats how, the duo resisted mind transfer jutsu and could resist potent genjutsu like tsukiyomi, so gowthers offence is shut down easily. He can only provide defence for his team, the moment he goes its back to square one.
     
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    Gowther has better feats than the Yamanaka. And Tsukuyomi deals in illusions, not memory hax.
     
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    The yamanaka clan invade the mind with mind transfer and take control of the mind, its a direct attack on the mind, TP is attack on the mind, gowther also attacks the mind. And the uchiha's have shown resistence to mind attacks which memory manipulation is under, TP encompases all mind based attacks ya know.

    > Mind control.
    > Reality simulation.
    > Memory manipulation.
    > Shutting down the brain/knocking out opponents.
    > mind torchering TP like tsukiyomi which torchers the opponents mind.
     
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    Madara and Obito have no resistance to mental manipulation on the level Gowther has shown. Having resistance to some abilities in that category doesn't grant immunity to higher forms.
     
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    Tsukiyomi is more potent than any illusion gowther has and the likes of hebi sasuke resisted it. Gowther can't even mind control strong beings, guess what, madara been controlling kurama and obito been controlling the 3rd mizukage for years, mind control is the highest form of TP attack, outright hijacking and controlling the mind of your opponent as you see fit. And yet the uchiha duo didn't engage in mental attacks on gowthers level? Lol, i wont lie, gowther is impressive but he isn't beating these guys when it comes to mind attacks. He has more range and is quite versatile but the potency of his mind attacks is nothing the uchiha's can't handle.
     
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