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EMS Madara vs SM Naruto, Tobirama, and Minato

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by ThomasTheCat, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. ThomasTheCat Wannabe Battledomer, Less Active Than Preferred

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    Living, EMS Madara takes on SM Naruto [WA], Living Tobirama, and Living Minato
    No Kurama for Mads.

    Location: 4th Great Ninja War battlefield
    Distance: 25 M
    Knowledge: Manga
    Mindset: IC, KI

    Round 2 -
    Madara has intent to capture

    Round 3 -
    KCM Naruto

    Round 4 -
    Full knowledge for Madara

    Round 5 -
    PS GG is not allowed
     
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    PS solos
     
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    Without PS it's a good fight.
     
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    I made a round 5 with no PS just now. Thanks for reminding me
     
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    Kurama and PS tips the scales in Madara's favor
     
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    Forgot to mention no Kurama for Mads... I'm rusty apparently...

    What about round 5 where there is no PS?
     
  7. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    The team wins without much problem. Asspulldara will be quickly tagged, and it's downfall for him from there.
     
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    Madara wins round 4 for sure. With Knowledge, he will use PS right off the bat. Round 1 and 2 could go either way, but Madara should win more times than not (5.5-6.5/10). In round 3, team wins more times than not(5.5-6/10). In round 5 team beat Madara. He has nothing to counter being tagged.
    If I were really malicious, I would say ET GG for every round ;33.
     
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    Kyuubi, make the Match favoured toward Madara.
     
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    The trio likely wins, Minato and Tobi should be able to create an opening with Hiraishin to allow Naruto to land a hit with FRS to take him out
     
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    Trio, Madara will have to use and maintain Susano'o from the onset. Knowing him, he won't. Even if he does,
    it's just a waiting game with FTG to avoid attacks and drop everything at his feet.
     
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    The trio have a solid chance. If the fight starts like almost every other one, in Cqc, then Madara dies to a crew that can land hits on JJ Obito.
    He definitely dies here.
    Better chances because of higher DC
    He might win this. If he goes all out from the start he might be able to take one down quickly, likely Naruto the weak link in mobility.
    does not change much. If they touch his PS he is marked anyway, it's also very likely they can just FTG him out of it anyway, with Madara wasting a ton of chakra to keep making them.

    Edit: Kurama gets contract sealed and helps the trio.
     
  13. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    Since u hit the big red X button on my 1st post I assume u believe they also beat Madz with PS as well, right?
     
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    Madara stomps them low diff.

    If EMS Sasuke could track Juubito thanks to his Shoku Tomoe, then Madara can easily follow this level of speed, which makes both Minato&Tobirama as a slow ass turtles.
    SM Naruto's firepower and perception are also negligeable compared to him.
     
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    Round 1 Madara prison shanks them no diff with PS or V4 or Susanoo clones

    He could literally just fight them for like 12+ hours straight and then theyd pass out and his job is done for him

    No one here has the Stamina feats to match him as the dude can fight for 24 hours straight against someone STRONGER than he is

    Barring that, he can use Susanoo to forcibly restrain his target and Genjutsu GG them like he did against A

    Or use a sufficiently powerful form of Susanoo and just break his opponents legs or some shit
    Nothing changes

    KCM clones meet Susanoo clones and get shitstomped in a 2:1 ratio
    HA
    V4 or Clones still allow him to win
     
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    Can we just skip to a year from now when Madara is also given Tosuka blade and Yata mirror in fight as well because other Uchiha can do it, lol?

    Battle experience is not a transferable quality and Madara has never even tried to track someone that fast.

    2/3 people here actually have landed hits on JJ Obito with out borrowing someone else's feats.
     
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    Asspulldara using PS right away is not happening. That's as much of a fanfiction as me thinking
    > Minato teleport to the frogs Mountain
    > he asks Shima/Fukasaku to prepare Frog Song
    > When it's almost done
    > he teleports back and one-shot Asspulldara with Frog Song.


    During the war arc, with little help from Onoki, Garra, and Naruto's clone. Asspulldara was FORCED to use the Rinnegan in order
    to survive here.
    Spoiler: 1




    in no fight was Asspulldara untouchable during all of his fights in the manga. You may create excuses and say "well, he was "playing/dancing" and all that jazz, but this is his character. :catshrug

    The difference here, 1 touch to him will be deadly and will make him at a disadvantage for the rest of the battle. When Obito got marked, he got smashed several times because of it. To think Asspulldara who is 2-3 tiers below him will have better luck is not likely.

    And if he is marked somewhere at the start or the middle of the battle, then even PS would be useless as they can teleport inside it to Asspulldara immediately anyway. :catshrug

    That's a point.


    Second point, PS is overrated. Aside from all the Asspulldara dick-riding, PS in the manga is "comparable" to the Bijuu as stated by
    Asspulldara himself here:


    And as we have seen in Naruto Vs Sasuke battle for example. Where Kurama's tails were fully capable of stopping PS's slashes.
    As for the pure fire-power the Bijuus are even stronger as their TBB were able to destroy the entire mountains where PS's slashes
    can only destroy the "tops" of the mountains and not even completely.

    People find it far-fetched because "We haven't seen it. Therefore, it must be impossible/illogical". But I don't see what stops Minato
    from smashing the PS to the ground by summoning a frog on top of it the same way he did to Kurama for example?

    Why was that possible against Kurama, but we should assume it's impossible to be done against PS?
    People can be extremely hypocritical about this. For example, they will claim that Hashi's Golem is as powerful "physically" as Kurama, and therefore it can get outside of CT.

    This same golem who is stated to be as powerful as Kurama physically was also stopping PS on its track. Which means PS is not
    stronger than Kurama in term of physical power either. So, what makes you think that what was able to stop Kurama will not stop PS?


    I can't see the situation being as desperate as Asspulldara's fans try to make it out to be. :catshrug
     
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    Hashirama defeated Asspulldara with SM.

    And if Hashirama defeated him with SM, then Naruto could also defeat Asspulldara with SM.

    You see how dumb your logic sounds? :zaru


    Even if we reverse it.

    Naruto can use SM with clones
    , therefore, Hashirama can use SM with clones! :zaru

    But the thing is, he can't! :zaru


    And you sound really hypocritical that you give Sasuke's feats to Asspulldara, and yet you don't give Asspulldara's feats
    to EMS Sasuke! :mjlol
     
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    What are you talking about ? Hashirama only defeated Madara because he is insanely powerful in base, and SM in constrast makes him several times stronger since the naturaly energy he gather to balance it with his insanely high physical&metal energies is just as big.
     
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    Susano'o is the same and Shoku Tomoe is the same, the only difference is that Madara's abilities have matured in reached their prime whist Sasuke's are still dormant.
    I really don't see why you brought Totsuka&Yata here ?

    For the sol reason he never had a chance to fight someone that fast and that's it.
     
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    So?

    You are given Sasuke's eyes feats to Asspulldara
    but we can't give Hashi's feats to Naruto because he has SM?

    Take home not, just because someone has the same jutsu/type of eye...etc
    does not automatically transfer those feats to the others.

    But let's go with your excuses for the sake of the argument.

    Why do you not give EMS Asspulldara's feats to EMS Sasuke? Please do explain...
     
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    Because Hashi&Naruto's powers aren't the same whilst Madara&Sasuke's are exactly the same.

    I've already explained all what you need above.
     
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    SM is the same jutsu...

    I see favoritism and bias. :mikebatman
     
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    And ? SM is just a tiny part of Naruto's power whilst BM is his man asset whilst Hashirama's SM makes him several times stronger.

    If it's your opinion, then I can do nothing about it.
     
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    - Why doesn't Naruto's SM give him the exact same boost it gives to Hasirama?
    - It's not opinion. It's a fact. U_U
     
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    Naruto's base chakra is fodder, several thousands of times lesser than Hashi's and less potent. Therefore, his SM is obviously trash in comparison as well.
     
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    Lol no. Not all Susano'o are the same.

    Nor is the SM/Kyubii boost he had suddenly common to all users.

    Is FKS Sasuke's ribcage the same as EDO Madara's?

    Sasuke's eyes were surpassing more mature Uchiha his whole life. So what?

    None of that has anything to do with the fact that one of them learned to track JJ speeds in battle and another did not.

    Trying to apply that to someone who only really fought Hashirama who is just his equal physically, and is by his own admission slower than Tobirama who is slower than JJ Obito is a pretty hard stretch of you think about it.

    I thought we were just handing out abilities because other Uchiha had them, seemed like fun.
    And thus it's not his feat to use.
     
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    Even with Kyubi's boost, Sasuke's level of Susano'o was still notably below EMS Mads, therefore the most logical conclusion is that even with KN0 boost, Sasuke's precog is still this much weaker than EMS Mads.

    Sasuke had the potential to "one day" surpass Madara, meaning he was still extremely massively below his ancestor in the war arc (pre-Rikudou boof)

    He also enhanced the level of Susano'o in the midst of battle and yet it was still no match to Madara's.

    All Uchihas doesn't have the same abilities but Sasuke and Madara have the same Susano'o and Shoku Tomoe, the only difference is that one of them was still a teen yungster whilst the other one reached his prime.
     
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    Minato and Tobirama only created openings for the real stars. But fanz can't get enough pretending Minato and Tobirama were the main acts against Obito. Naruto and Sasuke were the heavy lifters :pimp

    Your transitive logic only applies to creating openings on weaker opponents.
     
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    What does this have to do with anything? :mjlol

    Ok, Minato & Tobirama will get Asspulldara to receive a direct hit by SM Naruto's FRS. So?
    He is still going to be killed in this case as well. :mjlol
     
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