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Enel VS fruitless Doflamingo

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by Brook, Dec 26, 2017.

  1. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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  2. Imagine Sunrider

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    I don't need your long and unnecessary real world comparison to know that Doflamingo can survive attacks from a vastly inferior character.

    Doflamingo is the same guy that can stitch his innards back up on the fly and get ping-ponged around his country. Real world autonomy only goes so far here.

    The actual amount of energy Enel can produce is vastly inferior to what Doflamingo can take. Plain and simple.

    Nope. Everything Enel has in comparison to Doflamingo in terms of speed flat out unimpressive.
     
  3. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    If you're just going to ignore what i'm trying to explain there's really no point in continuing any further don't you think?

    A vastly inferior character speaks nothing to the DF they have in question which is the main point here. A DF that can destroy and island is powerful there's simply no if and buts here.

    You talk about flamingo putting his organs back together yet completely forgetting what law had already explained when he hit him with gamma knife about being unable strengthen organs. When that kind of voltage is going through your body your organs are going to get affected. Suitability is not a thing to talk about because oda doesn't like killing people, Just because they survived doesn't mean that flamingo can walk away. If they got shocked and could still fight then that is what you use.

    And there's no difference between internal organs of flamingo and any weak person. What does flamingo stitching organs have to do with his organs having the ability to withstand damage.... which they can't by the way? Nothing at all.

    And then you off on a tangent to talk about physical attacks for some reason.

    Just in case you've been reading this manga and missing a core concept here's one to note.

    One piece characters are remarkably durable.........on the outside.


    Yeah because Ice block partisan is hypersonic and Magma flows 10 times the speed of light.
     
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  4. Imagine Sunrider

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    I'm not ignoring what you're saying it's just fucking assumptions on your part. You can dig into semantics all you like but if Enel can't touch Doflamingo in the first place then who the fuck cares?
    :kanyeshrug

    Anything can be called an island. A 500-meter hunk of floating rock can be an island. The simple fact is Doflamingo can survive attacks from G4 Luffy is hilariously superior to Enel. Enel isn't shit anymore unless we're talking about the Arc and Doflamingo would split that shit in half before he even got a chance to charge it up.



    ''Massively'' hypersonic.
     
  5. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    I've already acknowledge his speed difference. These so called assumptions come from basic understanding of human anatomy.

    Seeing that one piece characters have organs it makes sense to me. There was no higher level of poison that magellan used against blackbeard compared to luffy. They both got affected, because their bodies didn't have a natural defense to poision. These such examples.

    G4 is purely physical.




    based on?
     
  6. Imagine Sunrider

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    Doflamingo and Law can cut Fujitora's meteors in half. The meteors travel from orbit within seconds at most.

    Anyone that can be compared to Dolfa or Law are that fast.
     
  7. Imagine Sunrider

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    Also, these characters have superhuman bodies. You can cry plot all you want but the simple fact is Wiper, Zoro, Sanji ect can be attacked by Enel and not immediately have their nervous system wrecked. Oh tbey'll fall because Enel can hit over their durability limit. Now look at Doflamingo who is on another level entirely.
     
  8. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    Apparently in those seconds those fodder soldiers started to hightail it out of there because they actually saw the meteorite coming, and flamingo and law had time to bask in it's glory.


    Not saying it wasn't a fast movement but i think people tend to go overboard on the speed aspect.


    Indeed. But he did this one attack and not even the best of what he was capable of. This simply means that theoretically enel would just have to shock flamingo a few more times. But it's within his abilities of his DF to do so, Just not within his physical abilities to land anything that could even be remotely regarded as a successful hit.
     
  9. J★J♥ Vento Aureo

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    The fuck is going on in this thread ? Doflamingo can stand there whole year without food and water and Enel wont do shit to him haki or no haki Enel is WEAK
     
  10. Imagine Sunrider

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    I'm talking about the meteor that fell on Greenbit. No soldiers to use to downplay that.

    Even downplaying it to minutes gets you speeds that Enel can't deal with.

    We know for a fact someone like Enies Lobby Luffy is way faster than Enel and someone like Doflamingo is leaps and bounds faster than him. The gap is hilarious and you all can choose to ignore but that won't make it any less relevant to this match.

    Wrong because Doflamingo's superhuman body can withstand Enel's superhumanly charged attacks by virtue of us knowing that Doflamingo is significantly stronger than anything Enel's had to deal with.

    And there's also the fact that Doflamingo isn't getting touched anyway.
     
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  11. DoctorLaw Shichibukai

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    I think Doflamingo wipes the floor with Enel personally, but there's some fanfiction going on in here about Enel being incapable of even hurting Doflamingo. Two things:

    1. A bounty increase beyond 300 million is VERY rare. Only the most powerful pirates receive an increase beyond that.
    2. Oda said that if Enel wasn't on a sky island his bounty would be 500 million.

    Needless to say, if Enel were officially classified as a pirate by the government, he would be considered a threat nearly on the level of someone like Ace. Of course not strength wise, but he would be considered an extreme threat. So portrayal wise, he would be capable of hurting Doflamingo. We can also look to several examples of significantly weaker characters being able to damage stronger characters given an opportunity. Squardo's nameless ass managed to impale WB. Even beyond BB's handicap, a pre-skip Luffy managed to land a clean hit on him. BB managed to scar Shanks. Luffy managed to hurt Magellan. If Doflamingo stands stock still, Enel is capable of hurting him.

    Of course, Enel's damage feats don't look too great nowadays. He barbecued everyone he got a clean hit on, but some characters like the old dude with the horse lasted a wee bit longer than they should have. I guess we can chalk that up to the plot. He also is very unimpressive when it comes to speed and agility when he isn't teleporting around. He probably couldn't tag Doflamingo
     
  12. Onewhosbeenaround ZZZZZ

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    Didn't Law hit DD with a counter shock right after he gamma knifed him? Going by this Enel's strongest non arc enhanced attacks would at best be like a static shock for DD.
     
  13. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    I don't agree.
     
  14. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    don't see counter shock being more potent than the lightning devil fruit.
     
  15. Onewhosbeenaround ZZZZZ

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    Counter shock was capable of injuring Vergo the same guy who is >>>> pre skip m3 in durability. While it does sound off that a guy who's primary ability does even revolve around electricity has an attack that is > the lightning mans non amped arsenal that is just the way it is especially seeing as this is a shonen in all. At the end of the day Enel just ddoesn't measures up in any way shape or form to the current relevant threats as is a natural result of a progressing shonen with the only way of him regaining any relevance in terms of strength is for him to return with some massive gains.
     
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    Nvm without haki either i dont know what he could do
     
  18. Extravlad Well-Known Member

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    Doflamingo would take next to no damage from Enel so he can just go out in Skypiea and look for some Seastone to put an end to it
     
  19. Imagine Sunrider

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    You don't have to because the manga does.

    Doflamingo, in every aspect, is superior to everyone in Skypiea. What Skypiea characters can dish out, survive and withstand he can do the same thing but with far less difficulty then they can.

    Oh yeah and I forgot about DD withstanding Counter Shock. GG no re. :kanyeshrug
     
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