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EoS Strawhat Strength

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by oiety, Feb 11, 2018.

  1. oiety So it goes, the Dark - led by it's Monarch

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    Seems obvious that Luffy will end up Pirate King, likely strongest man in the world, but where do you think the other strawhats will end up? Like, what position will they be closest to in strength?
     
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  2. Gohara Ryutoshi

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    Luffy- Pirate King level.

    Zoro- Around exceptional Yonkou level.

    Sanji- Inferior to Prime Rayleigh but around exceptional Yonkou First Mate level.

    Robin/Chopper- Around 2nd/3rd/4th Yonkou Commander level.

    Jinbe/Brook/Franky- Inferior to top Yonkou Commanders but superior to most if not any other Yonkou Commanders.

    Usopp/Nami- Around Vergo and mid Yonkou Commander level.

    Of course this is all just in my opinion. :p
     
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  3. Shiba D. Inu #admiralgang

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    EoS Sanji has to be admiral/admiral+ level to beat Kizaru

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  4. savior2005 Well-Known Member

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    nah, zoro will save him against kizaru after he cuts down mihawk. Then zoro will defeat kizaru but let sanji have the credit
     
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  5. DoctorLaw Shichibukai

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    By the end of the manga (assuming no more timeskips) I think

    Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe - All capable of fighting Yonkou/Admirals to some degree

    Luffy should be as strong as Primebeard, who was PK level with Roger.

    Zoro should be strong enough to at least extreme diff an admiral on his own.

    Sanji should be able to give an admiral a high difficulty fight on his own.

    Jinbe should be able to match or beat Katakuri. He gives an admiral a decent fight.

    With the strongest 4 fighters being around this level, I think the ending can have balanced fights and opportunities for team work.

    Brooke, Robin, Franky - Capable of fighting or defeating Yonkou commanders that aren't ranked in the top 3. 3v1 they should be able to take down a first mate.

    Brooke has been seriously impressive, and he's shown he's resourceful and he has shown glimpses of his versatility. With some strong awakening moves and increase in base stats, he should be able to give Doflamingo a good run for his money (though not win).

    Robin with awakening and haki is terrifying. Imagine if she specifically focused on making her CoA as strong as possible over a decade or two? She could probably one shot high tier logias. That didn't happen of course though, so I'll say she will be strong enough by series end to be around Oven level in terms of threat.

    Franky will definitely get his hands on some more Vegapunk technology, and we already know he's going to get a sleek new robot form for something coming up. I'd say Franky will be overall around as strong as Brooke, but his offense will allow him to beat someone on Cracker's level if he can be defended well enough.

    Nami, Usopp, Chopper - Capable of surviving against weak Yonkou commanders for a long time, capable of beating them with the right circumstances.

    I'd say Nami base skills are too shit/unstable to put her high up overall, but I think her offensive techniques are going to give her Yonkou commander level attacks at the very least.

    Usopp should gain a good boost in his CoO, and I think he'll be capable of taking down weaker Yonkou commanders if he has prep.

    Chopper should be able to fight yonkou commanders as well, and out of these three he should do the best, since he has the defense and speed that Usopp and Nami lack.

    Potential crew/why not: Carrot, Buggy - Strong enough to wait

    Carrot will probably be a little stronger than the bottom 3 without Sulong, and when she activates it she should shoot to the area inbetween the middle trio and the strongest 4.

    Buggy is shichibukai, a legendary pirate from the paramount war, someone who once rivaled Shanks, and defied and successfully evaded Akainu, the mad dog himself. He sailed the New World with Whitebeard himself and survived fights against formidable opponents such as Shiki. He's achieved more than most characters in this manga. Without a doubt, EOS he should be strong enough to solo Don Krieg.
     
  6. TheWiggian World's Strongest

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    PK Luffy > EoS BB/Roger/Primebeard
    WSC Kaido/EoS FA Akainu
    WSS Zoro > WSS Mihawk/Prime Rayleigh >= Shanks/Meme/Admirals

    EoS Sanji > Marco/Dogtooth
    Jinbei > Jack



    Will edit later a bit and add middle tio and weak trio
     
  7. DarkRasengan Well-Known Member

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    Luffy - PK level
    Zoro - yonkou level(shanks/kaidou/ old wb)(he has to beat the guy who beats mihawk, who is ~ to shanks)
    Sanji - low yonkou level/admiral level (big mom) slightly below zoro, just like he always has been
    Jinbei - Yonkou sm level (jozu)
    Franky - Cracker level
    Brooke - Vista level
    Robin - Snack level
    Chopper - Vergo level
    Nami - pika level
    Usopp - pika level

    so 3 admiralish level fighters m3
    3 yonkou high commander level fighters mid 3
    4 mid level commander fighters
     
  8. King Itachi ^/_\^

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    Luffy would be up there with Prime Roger/Prime Whitebeard.
    Zoro is somewhere below and near EoS Sabo. Below Shanks, Teach and probably Dragon
    Sanji would be able to match any admiral. Would favor him against any of them except for Akainu

    The rest of them won't be top-tier characters, though the others should be high-tier characters. I can see Jinbei being exceptional among high-tier characters. Probably around Jozu's level
     
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  9. zoro_santoryu Savage

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    Luffy - Above Yonkou level
    Zoro - Around yonkou level
    Sanji - Around admiral level
    Jinbei - Around Marco or Jozu
    Franky - Around Donflamingo level
    Brooke - Around Vista level
    Robin - Around Donflamingo
    Chopper - Around Pika level
    Nami - Around Vergo level
    Usopp - Greater than or equal to his old man, Yasopp level (prediction)
     
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  10. Dunno Well-Known Member

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    Luffy - Slightly weaker than Blackbeard. Stronger than anyone else.
    Zoro - Weaker than Blackbeard and slightly weaker than Luffy. Stronger than anyone else.
    Jinbei - Yonkou FM level
    Franky - Around Cracker's level
    Robin and Brook - A bit weaker than Franky
    Nami and Chopper - Oven / Perospero level
    Usopp - Spandam / Nezumi level

    I'm really uncertain regarding Sanji.
     
  11. Gianfi Well-Known Member

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    Imo:

    1) Luffy = PK Level, around Roger and Primebeard
    2) Zoro= stronger than any admiral bar Eos Akainu
    3) Sanji= on par with admirals, can extreme diff Kizaru, either way against MF Aokiji
    4) jimbe= lose extreme/high diff to any admiral, would beat extrem/high diff all first mates
    5) Franky = Donflamingo/Cracker level, rises a bit with cyborg franky
    6) Robin = read above
    7) Brook= read above
    8) Chopper= Vergo level, but with Monster Chopper he could be around 2/3 yonkou commander level
    9) Usopp= Vergo Level, however it has been implied he could surpass or equal his father, which I think should be >Vergo, so don’t know
    10) Nami= Vergo level
    11) Carott(?)= Stronger than the weak trio, with sulong she is the 5th strongest SH after Jimbe
     
  12. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    Luffy: > Old Beard
    Zoro: EoS Luffy level
    Sanji: > Kizaru
    Jinbe: > Green Bull

    Usopp: > 3rd commander level (sniper guy in BB's crew will be > Yasopp ~ Vista)
    Carrot: > 3rd commander level

    Franky: > Ace (4th commander)
    Brook: around Ace
    Robin: around Ace

    Nami: > Diamante
    Chopper: > Diamante. Monster form > EoS Franky
     
  13. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    Because i haven't done this in a while. EoS Strawhats would be the strongest pirate crew in history because they have to be . They are going to take on WG and BB Pirates after all. Being around Yonkou crew level doesn't cut it for them. :
    1)Luffy : Roger/Primebeard level.
    2)Zoro : Prime Rayleigh/Oldbeard level.
    3)Sanji : Admiral level(will extreme diff any of them sans Akainu).
    4)Jinbei : Overall Katakuri level(Will lose to an Admiral to High diff). God level inside a Sea.
    5)Robin : DD level(Will lose to an Admiral to Mid diff).
    6)Franky : Jozu level(Will lose to an Admiral to Mid diff).
    7)Brook : Dressorsa! Law level
    8)Chopper : Vergo level
    9)Nami : Overall Don Chinjao level(Imagine Enel with much better reactions and stats and other hax).
    10)Ussop : Overall Don Chinjao level.
     
  14. MO Well-Known Member

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  15. Gledania Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

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    Luffy : A bit more than Kaido/White beard level.
    Zoro : Between admiral and Yonko level (like mihawk is)
    Sanji : admiral level
    Jimbei : will give an extrem diff to any admiral, but end up loosing. He is too old. He reached his max. Now he will start getting weak like whitebeard garp ect ...
    Robin : Depend on whether she learn haki or not. If not , she will become like a boa hancock level.
    Ussop : Vice admiral level AT THE BEST. He is not that powerfull , he will have a similar fate to baggy.
    Nami : Same
    Chopper : Same
    Franky : Depend on many things ... But maybe as strong as an admiral.
    Brook : Vice admiral.

    Others :
    Law : between Admiral and yonko Level
    Urouge : yonko FM level
    Kidd : Shiki ...
    Smoker : Admiral level if oda is mercifull. Or yonko-FM.
    Coby : Same
    Tashigi + hermep : Between Rear admiral and vice admiral.
    Me : Jango level
     
  16. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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  17. zorokuma Well-Known Member

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    Luffy- Pirate King level
    Zoro- Yonko Level
    Sanji- Low Yonko Level
    Jinbe - Dead
    Law - Dead
    Kidd - Low Yonko Level
    Middle trio - Low Yonko Commander level
    Ussop -Pirate King level in mind, Vice Admiral level in reality.
    Coby - Admiral level
     
  18. tejas8055 ☻☻☻☻☻

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    Luffy - above Kaido/PrimeBeard
    Zoro - above Mihawk/Fujitora/Prime Rayleigh
    Sanji - Kizaru
    Usopp/Hakuba - Katakuri
    Jinbe/Franky/Monster Chopper - Jozu/Jack
    Brook/Robin/Cavendish/Barolomeo - Doflamingo/Cracker
    Chopper/Sai/Hajrudin - WCI Urouge
    Ideo/Orlumbus - Oven/Daifuku
    Nami/Leo - Perospero.
    Blue Gilly/Suleiman/Gambia/Baby 5/Boo/Stansen - Tamago.
     
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  19. Gledania Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

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    Ussop is not going to reach freaking katakuri level. If he reach vergo I will be surprised. This guy is weak. He may be good at sniping , but even people like monet or delinger may one shot him if they stay close to him.

    He is the buggy of the crew. (Like ivankov was saying , every crew having their weak member reffering to baggy) he want to be a captain of a large crew (like baggy) and both are doing it by the exacte same way : funny coincidences and luck.
     
  20. tejas8055 ☻☻☻☻☻

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    Just wait till Yasopp dies and Usopp receives a massive boost in tiers. He will be no. 4 of Straw Hat Crew like Yasopp in Red Hairs.
     
  21. Gledania Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

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    Like what ? A better coO ? In a long distance fight maybe it may help , but not in a close 1v1 fight.
     
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    A sniper's worth and powerlevel should be judged at long range, not Close quarters. See Yeti Cool Brothers were weaker than chopper but could put out Zoro. Imagine EoS Usopp fight to be like this. Doflamingo flying on sky and suddenly gets hit from a seastone bullet in the forehead and eyes and dies. Also Usopp has popgreens and dials that could work as a camouflage and quickly provide distance if forced to engage in close combat. Like if Usopp was getting into a fight, he could quickly cast a smokescreen and use an explosive dial/pop green to be thrown far away and land on a trampoline while sniping the enemy.
     
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  23. Gledania Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

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    Don't forget people like katakuri and donfla were able to dodge luffy G4. They can also rely on the CoA to protect from his bullet.

    As long the enemy have long distance attack like DD law fuji or zoro , or use moonwalk (sanji vergo kaku momonga ect ...), and is able to find him through the gaz with a strong coO ,this will not help him that much.

    Any vice-admiral is able to do as such.
     
  24. tejas8055 ☻☻☻☻☻

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    G4 is huge and visible. whereas a small bullet flying at supersonic speeds is hardly detectable. And CoO and CoA not constant and have to be activated. DOflamingo could not sense Law's switch with a dead body. So surprise attacks do matter a lot. Long distance attack yes. but Usopp also uses trickery which will be highly upgraded EoS. Hell, he can sink underwater and snipe from there.
     
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    I partialy agree but you have to clarify what your talking about. Long distance surprise attack can be dodge : remeber sanji and katakuri ? Well ... sometimes surprise attack can also work, I agree. But again , it's not called "surprise" for no reason. A vice admiral putting seastone handcuff on marco was a surprise attack. That doesn't mean marco is vice admiral level , he is more than that. By using this logic actual ussop doing the same with akainu hands , then throwing a gaz to make him sleep then one shoting him means he is admiral level.

    What I said in 1v1 fight where both ennemies are aware of each other, ussop will have no chance against a top tier.
     
  26. tejas8055 ☻☻☻☻☻

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    Depends on what tricks Usopp uses and how much damage he can take. Already current Usopp is known to take loads of punishment. This will naturally be magnified EoS. Since, with Yasopp's death, Usopp's resolve will harden. It all boils down to how much punishment Usopp can take before gaining distance dishing out a surprise attack. This is already well addressed by his arsenal to which he needs to add seastone.
     
  27. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    Usopp will be 3rd commander tier+ guaranteed
     
  28. TheWiggian World's Strongest

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    He will still be remembered as a joke in the epilogue.
     
  29. tejas8055 ☻☻☻☻☻

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    The joke in epilogue will be Mihawk's grave when Zoro places Shiryu's sword on it.
     
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  30. TheWiggian World's Strongest

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    Yep and Usopp will respect and obey that gesture.
     
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