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Equilibrium VS The Matrix

Discussion in 'Konoha Theatre' started by Soul Reaver, Aug 15, 2005.

  1. Soul Reaver Kneel Before Me

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    Mkay, As most people know, The Matrix was a pretty big hit, awesome story, (in the 1st anyway) and two poorass sequels.

    Recently I got the chance too watch a movie called Equilibrium which I was informed was a poor "ripoff" of the Matrix.

    I disagree strongly, IMO Equilibrium was a damn awesome movie, moving story, awesome action scenes and superb acting.

    So I was wondering if anyone else had seen Equilibrium, (Stars Christian Bale) and what they thought of it as a film by itself, then compared to The Matrix.
     
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    Equilibrium is a good movie and came out earlier than the matrix I think...so the story is cool also...
     
  3. uncanny_sama Que Veux-tu

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    ive watched equilibirum 3 times, of 2 that i stopped the film after 15 min
    the 3rd time i watched the whole movie
    and im so fucking glad i did

    equilibrium is one of the best movies ive seen so far the story was so good and the action great.
    you cant really compare this movie to the matrix although i do think the story is better than the matrix especially matrix 2 & 3
     
  4. hjkou Well-Known Member

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    wasnt equilibrium out before matrix?
    anyway, the storyline is in no way the same, i feel equilibriums was more cheesy but alot better

    the action was fkn mad, as "lame" as it was ;D i mean, you have to admit it was corny at alot of times
    i still loved it though

    matrix was corny, without the supermad action. it just got, supercorny and lame
    ESPECIALLY after the sequels
     
  5. Soul Reaver Kneel Before Me

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    They were released roughly the same time I think, people claimed Bales character (Grammoton Cleric Preston.) was a cheap ripoff of Neo which is obviously BS.

    They also say that his fighting style was too Matrix-esque.

    Personal I loved the battle scenes in Equilibrium.
     
  6. meatpie Chairman

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    They are two very different movies.

    The only similarity between Matrix and Equi is the black/dark outfit...in which case Batman must also be a cheap ripoff.
     
  7. Gooba Join us

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    I saw both, and loved them. I think the first (and IMO only) Matrix movie is a lot better, but Equilibrium was still damn good, it is just that The Matrix was one of my favorite movies of all time. If you want to count the sequels, which I pretend never happened because they ruin the first movie, Equilibrium is way better.
     
  8. Maru-San New Member

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    According to imdb.com, The Matrix came out on 31 March 1999 and Equilibrium came out on 6 December 2002.
    But as most people here, I think they're different movies. I don't know which I like better though... Liked them both =D Fight scenes in Equilibrium were awesome
     
  9. kapsi Banned

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    Equilibrum sucks big time, Matrix was way better. The gun kata is ridiculous but the last fight in E was pretty good I'd say (both last fights).
     
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    thx, for the info

    yeeah damn right
     
  11. The Space Cowboy Unfair, Unjust, Human

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    The Gun Kata is...crazy, but also ten kinds of crazy fun. And I gotta say, the Matrix draws more from 1984 while Equilibrium is more like Huxley's "Brave New World." Two distinct and entertaining dystopias for the heroic leads to romp through.

    But Equilibrium has more rewatchability than the Matrix. I've rented and re-rented Equilibrium five or six times. The Matrix...bought it, and now it lies at the bottom of the DVD collection.
     
  12. CrazyMoronX Old Man

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    I liked Equilibrium a lot, and it wasn't like the Matrix at all.. I generally don't buy into anything critics say, esepcially after seeing the reviews on this movie.

    I think people are just dumb, that's my only explination. They are wildly overanalyzing the movie obviously.

    I liked the story, the action, and everything in between.
     
  13. lekki Specialist

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    Equilibrium was an awesome movie, had nothing to do with the matrix and the effects were badass.
    If you haven't watched it, I highly recommend it to kill 2 hours:)
     
  14. kapsi Banned

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    Well maybe you tell me what these ridiculous fights were for? Where Bale jumps around and 10 men with assault rifles can't shoot him?
     
  15. meatpie Chairman

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    There is nothing uniquely-matrix-like about that.
     
  16. kapsi Banned

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    Matrix introduced that
     
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    The original Matrix is suprior to Equilibrium is almost every aspect, be it philosophy reference, action choreography, art direction... well except Bale is a better actor than Keanu Reeves :) But Equilibrium is nevertheless an entertaining movie. Gun Kata is very original and cool,maybe a little bit cheesy, but so are a great deal of classic awesome Hong Kong action flicks.

    Oh and the two movies are nothing alike. Personally I think Equilibrium is much more 1984ish than Matrix. The society described in Equilibrium is almost same as in 1984.
     
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    No it didn't. Happens in almost every Hollywood action movie like Terminator etc where Soldiers seem unable to hit anything. In Matrix it was just very obvious that they were especially blind, stupid and way slower than Neo and his girlfriend. In Equilibrium it was even more obvious that the hero (forgot his name) was superior to anything in the movie.
    And to call Equilibrium a Matrix rip-off would be really lame. Matrix itself was already a rip-off of so many movies like Terminator or Dark City etc. Despite that, I think of Matrix of the better movie because it had a better plot and cooler fights. But Equilibrium was pretty awesome as well. Pretty much reminded me of 1984 (as mentioned here before) which was a great book imo.
     
  19. kapsi Banned

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    Well actually I was saying that Matrix introduced kung fu-like fights, not blind soldiers. I don't think Matrix ripped anything directly, rather it ripped a little from everything.

    Bastardised 1984 + fights serving no purpose IMO
     
  20. Putschi New Member

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    I think you mean the way they used kung fu-like fights, eh? Because I doubt you're stupid and we all know kung fu or kung fu-like fights from movies way older. As far as I remember the way they used the slowmotion and all that camera stuff was the only thing that was actually innovative. And of course the mix of stuff. Nonetheless Matrix was an awesome movie.
     
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    Equilibrium is an awesome movie. I really enjoyed it, although I think that the first Matrix had a better story (but then again Dark City had a very good story, also very similar to the Matrix and was released before the Matrix)

    But comparing the two movies by itself.

    Matrix > Equilibrium (just barely)
    however
    Christian Bale >>> Keanu Reeves.
     
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    I liked equilibrium better then the matrix. I personally think the story was much more human and relatable then the matrix.
     
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    Well, thr first Matrix adn Second were pretty good but Equilibrum was kinda a huge rip, though teh ending of Equilibrium was awesome this part:

    Spoiler:
    When the two guys had a fight and the guy servered the top half of that guys head, oh snap. That part was awesome, re-re-rewind.


    Its a tie for me.
     
  24. Insipidipity Ignostic Buddhist

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    Loved the cast of Equilibrium more(Janus of Goldeneye and the psycho of American Psycho/Batman of Batman begins), loved the idea of gun katas(despite the impossibility), loved the final fight, loved the characters and dystopian background, loved the fact that the hero wasn't superhuman, just very well trained in a very interesting martial art(I think it combined probability with jpg like analysis of gunfights with martial art style, with modern weapons)

    Definitely better than the Matrix by like 20%. The matrix was pretty awesome, but I mean, Equilibrium was just jaw droppingly cool
     
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    enjoyed watching both matrix and equilibrium....but equilibrium had lots of good actions..... the fights are pure amazing.... thats wat i liked about the movie so much.... the fights are just awesome....very nice movie.... matrix was ok and all....2nd part was kinda good but 3rd was like hell......ruined it big time......compared to all matrix movie i would rather watch equilibrium....the fights were wicked......
     
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    Actually I give John Woo credit for introducing slow-mo in fight scenes. He was doing that stuff way back in the 80s in his films.

    But yeah...matrix was a good movie...
    But the 2 sequels should never have been made...
     
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    I have to give the nod to Equilibrium...the fights were better imo and the main char was far cooler. Cleric over 'Chosen One' anyday.
     
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    IMO equilibrium was much better than both the matrix sequels combined, but the original is slightly better than equilibrium only because of it sheer originality and its ability to make u think outside the box. The scene when they give neo the choice to take the pills, now that was a kick ass scene, and it is the movie that reinvented slow-motion fight scenes in movies. Equillibrium had cooler fight scenes that were very well choreographed and jaw droping. But Matrix had better special effects and its fight scenes were on a much larger scale.
     
  29. Potentialflip One Last Stand

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    It took me a while to take in Equilibrium. After all the first couple of minutes of it are not all that good as far as drawing in the audience. But I will have to go with Equilibrium simply because of that last fight scene with the gun tango fight. I mean they could have gone ahead and copy the Matrix and slow down the action (which too me was awesome the first time. but now that i look back at it possibly because of the sequels the slow mo feature is not all that amazing). As far as Equilibrium and Matrix similarities... They only have two things in common: 1- Gun crazy guys. 2- Main character is agains the norm of the movie (Neo and the Matrix, Cleric and the world of Equilibrium). Other than that there is no much similiarities between the two.
     
  30. Sweet Ambrosia ...and I'm outta my mind

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    You guys are gonna hate me for this, but I thought Equilibrium was stupid. It was a ripoff of Farenheit 451 and it was a very predictable movie. The Matrix is superior in every aspect except the main character. Bale whips Keanu's ass good in the acting department.
     
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