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Eraserhead VS Stain

Discussion in 'My Hero Academia' started by GoldenHeart, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. GoldenHeart Well-Known Member

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    Who would win in a fight?
     
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    I'd give it out to Aizawa
    Stain is pretty crazy and has seemingly unlimited stamina but his crutch is that he paralyzes the guys then he goes for the kill/disable

    If Aizawa can just keep his eyes on him the blood Quirk shouldn't work but if he loses sight for him for even a second then he is royally screwed
     
  3. Wizzrobevox I'm About To Smash!!!

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    I feel like part of it would have to do with 'Can Stain cut Aizawa's tape?' Seems like an obvious answer but keep in mind this stuff can detain and restrain super-powered humans/mutants, I imagine it's pretty durable.
     
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    Both are physical beasts who use their Quirks only as secondary/helper powers rather than as their primary ability, so it would be a battle of endurance and skill.

    I think Stain would win simply because he's batshit insane and would manage to outlast Aizawa simply because of his sheer tenacity and willpower.
     
  5. Sequester Lacking in Luster

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    Close but I favor Stain, his drive and obsessive nature seems to be able to push him passed his limits... And at his limit he is already comparable to Eraserhead in my eyes.
     
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    This is one of those fights where Aizawa's quirk is all but useless because Stain isn't reliant on his own quirk, it's just one of many things that make him such an effective killer. Stain has better strength feats (cutting through Shouto's ice and harming Deku) and obviously more deadly weapons so yeah I give him the win more often than not.
     
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    If Toga managed an equal exchange with Aizawa imagine how fucked he'd be against Stain :kobeha
     
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    Didn't she catch him off guard? Fucking Ochako wrecked Toga 1 v 1 so her doing anything against Aizawa is bullshit.
     
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    He might have underestimated her but it was a head-on clash.

    Toga's later skill feats (blitzing Deku, taking down Rocklock and ganking Eraser) basically contradict the Ochako thing so she was either non-serious (likely with her personality) or underestimated Ochako.
     
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    Ochako got one move in against toga and it ended up costing her a bunch of blood.
     
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    Toga used aizawa's weapon against him and won a exchange against him by taking less damage between the blows they exchanged. Stain is on a whole other tier than toga skill, speed, and strength wise. His has crazy endurance as well. I can't even imagine hori drawing a scenario where eraser wins in an extended one on one.
     
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    Stain

    Aizawa cant keep Stains quirk negated for the entire fight meaning at some point Aizawa is getting paralyzed even if for a moment, and thats all the opening Stain needs to end him.

    Physically id also say Stain is the better fighter regardless if for no other reasoning that Stain actually goes for the kill and has lethal weapons...Whereas Aizawa uses a scarf...

    Aizawas Quirk also takes a toll on him and sets him back anyway...Drying out his eyes isnt something you wanna do in a death battle. Stains is an afterthought by comparison.
     
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    I would hope my boy Aizawa beats the shit out of that chump Stain but unfortunately I don't see it going that way. Still it would be a good fight.
     
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    If Aizawa is lucky and shows Stain he’s a true hero his life might be spared.
     
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    Aizawa with difficulty. Stain is his specialty. Stain has never taken on anyone near as powerful as 1st Nomu.
     
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    And? Aizawa got destroyed by that Nomu and otherwise Aizawa has never taken on anyone as powerful as Stain.
     
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    Aizawa took on Knuckleduster, who literally punched Stain's nose off :catskully
     
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    Did Stain take the fight seriously?
     
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    Pretty sure he did.
    Even if he didn't, why would it matter? Your durability doesn't magically go down because you're not fighting seriously.
     
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    As powerful as Stain. Who has Stain taken down without prep or taking them unaware with his quirk? Yeah Azaiwa lost but let's not forget he faced down a ton of enemies before taking on Nomu with 1 arm. Yeah he would have lost if he was fresh anyway, but it would not have been that easy since he would have been able to take away Nomu's quirks.
     
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    Your durability doesn't but your strength, speed, skill etc, take a huge hit when you aren't really trying so lets not act like someone not taking you seriously doesn't make a huge difference.

    And yeah you're going to have to prove Stain took the fight seriously otherwise all we can take from that is Knuckleduster can hurt him which says nothing about weather or not Aizawa can take on a fully armed and serious Stain.
    He was making a fool of Shouto while holding back, he stomped 5% Deku and Iida without taking either off guard and while holding back. He also blitzed and one-shotted a Nomu while severely injured (he literally passed out right after he did this).

    Except there was no indication Aizawa was that badly drained by fighting the mooks (which were literally nobodies that the students made a mockery of so stomping them means nothing). He also tried to use his quirk on Nomu, it did nothing because Nomu's strength and speed (the reason Aizawa got stomped so bad) doesn't come from a quirk, his natural strength matches 100% All Might at the time. So no Aizawa would have gotten stomped handily regardless if he had fought before that or not.
     
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    Can't really post scans here, so basically, read Vigilantes chapter 11. Stain decides to attack Knuckleduster due to him disagreeing with his ideology only to get blitzed and get his nose broken :catskully
     
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    Okay I read it. He clearly underestimated Knuckleduster and got taken off guard, immediately after that he gets up like nothing happened and rushes Knuckleduster who barely manages to block in time before getting his hands cut. Knuckleduster didn't "blitz" anything. He didn't even decisively beat him as Stain just left.

    Also how long before the main series does that take place? Because that's clearly a younger and weaker Stain than we see in the manga (he even has a completely different costume). Basically you're not getting any scaling for Aizawa from that.
     
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    I don't think Vigilantes ever clarifies it, but Aizawa hasn't even started to work as a teacher yet, while in the current timeline he states he has been teaching for a while, so it probably happens a few years before the main storyline.
     
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    Okay then you can't really assume the Stain that Knuckleduster was able to fight is as strong as the one we see in the main manga, especially since we know this is a dude who trained ridiculously hard before he started his killing spree so that fight doesn't really mean anything.
     
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    What part was he holding back? He could not afford to hold back against Todoroki. Stain's moves we designed to make Todoroki get closer.

    He stomped Ida, but not really Deku. Deku was caught off guard by his quirk like Ida. Stain made sure the blows from Deku after the first surprise attack were glancing.

    He killed a weaker version of the 1st Nomu designed to take on All Might. He did not blitz it he caught it before it could really take off with Midoriya.

    Aizaiwa was breathing hard and his eyes were getting really irritated from all of them. He also does not have the quirk of a Tadoroki or Bakudo. He like stain has to handle them hand to hand. So it takes a considerable amount of more effort on his end then the other students.

    His quirk does nothing against Nomu's base strength and speed. It would have made a difference for his ability to take hits and regenerate. This was why Nomu was even able to take hits from All Might in the 1st place.
     
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    The entire fight he was holding back, on account of him not wanting to kill Deku or Todoroki, just Iida. They all agree after the fact that Stain could have killed them all at any time if he was serious.
    That wasn't a surprise attack though, Deku attacked him and Stain was able to hit him with a glancing blow easily while purposefully trying not to kill him. Deku got stomped dude.
    Stain was able to get from a restrained position to killing the Nomu before the thing could get anywhere, the thing was already in the air when Stain started moving. He blitzed it.
    No it wasn't as, even after All Might overwhelmed its shock absorption, it still took 300 punches at over 100% power to actually deal significant damage to it. That tough bastard could take All Might's punches with or without his quirks so Aizawa isn't doing shit to it even if he turns them off. Ignoring the fact it was also much faster than Aizawa (given it matched All Might's speed) so he wouldn't be able to hit it before getting his head crushed like a grape.
     
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    Just because he was not trying to kill them does not mean he was not trying to disable them. I mean he would have had Todoroki had Deku not been blood type O. He could not take on all 3 at one time.

    Deku straight up surprise punched the dude when he entered the frey. And again he was only able to get Deku because he surprised him with his quirk.

    It was not to high up yet and injured from its fight with Endeavour and Grand Terino. Grand himself was probably going to make the save himself.

    Dude are you for real? It was because of those quirks he could even last as long as he did. Without them he would have been pasted. All Might needed all of those punches primarily because of the absorbtion. His super regeneration was also a factor for had All Might not been able to knock him away from Tomura it would have ended bad.

    With shock and more importantly super regen disabled it's freaking brain would be exposed to kill it. Just like what stain did.
     
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    Trying to disable them rather than kill is pretty much the textbook definition of not being serious. They all acknowledge this and conclude they would have been fucked if he'd been trying to kill them. Yes he could take on all three, the only reason he lost is because he didn't want to kill two of them.
    No he got Deku because he was too fast and managed to clip him with his sword. If he wanted to, he could have easily taken his head or cut his throat or stabbed him in the heart. Nothing was stopping him from doing any of that other than the fact he didn't want to kill Deku.
    Gran Torino straight up stated that the Nomu was too high for him to reach by the time Stain moved.

    WTF, Are you for real? If it wasn't durable enough to take those punches in the first place, no amount of regeneration would have saved it from getting pasted. The fact it still took 300 punches to down the damn thing means it was durable enough to take a few of them. We even clearly see that All Might's individual punches weren't doing major damage on their own because the Nomu remained intact through the entire assault. Regeneration helped but it only makes a difference if you're durable enough to not get pasted by a single punch.
    You do realise All Might was hitting the thing all over? After overwhelming its shock absorption and its brain survived those punches enough for its regeneration to make a difference. :notrust

    Once again, Aizawa isn't doing shit to that Nomu regardless of weather he turns its quirk off or not.
     
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