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Espada= 13 court guards

Discussion in 'Bleach' started by Spike31589, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. Spike31589

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    probaly been said before but they are carbon copies of members of the 13 court guard

    Grimmjow Jeagerjaques = renji- because has vendetta with ichigo

    Ulquiorra Schiffer = Byakuya Kuchiki- silent killer who always uses the same moves to kill opponent

    stark= Shunsui Kyōraku- lazy
    Halibel= soi fon/Yoruichi Shihouin- angry silent female

    black guy= tosen- seems to value justice like tosen

    Old guy= Shigekuni Yamamoto- really old war vetran

    Noitora= zaraki- wants to fight and kill people

    Aaroniero Arleri= Kaien/ Jushiro- squad 13

    Szayel Aporro Grantz=Mayuri Kurotsuchi- science guy who disects opponents

    Yammy=Ikkaku Madarame/Sajin Komamura- loves to fight for honor and fun of fighting

    Down to their annoying characteristics
     
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  2. Yak

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    Yeah, been said and done before, several times over.
     
  3. Spike31589

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    sorry was annoying the hell out of me just needed to say it
     
  4. SiSL

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    Kubo did so beautiful and yet so different characters for 13. squad members, hardly any new characteristic left as distinct.

    Normal they would seem similiar.
     
  5. Yamato (Inactive)

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    Fixed it for you.
     
  6. Trias

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    Yeah, Espada are mostly boring. Thank KFC that there are Halibel and Stark tho.
     
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    I could not agree more smile-big

    I find Grimmjow, Ulquiorra, Stark and Noitora all really interesting. And ''los Negros'' looks cool as well. Personally 5/10 isn't bad, bearing in mind they havent all been introduced properly yet.
     
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    The espada boring? ;/

    they each have unique likeable/dislikeable personalities
     
  9. Kri

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    Noitora and Szayel are the only ones even close.

    [rant]

    Grimmjow is Renji because he wants to fight Ichigo again? So what? So did Grand Fisher. Renji's rival in Soul Society was Byakuya anyway, because he's always had his goal set to surpass his captain.

    Ulquiorra is Byakuya because he always uses the same move to kill his opponents? He only used Senkei on one person other than Ichigo, and he certainly didn't need it for Renji. Who else have we even seen him fight?

    Stark is Shunsui because he's lazy? He's just bored. That's hardly call for Stark being an uncreative character. Not only have we barely seen anything from him, but what we've seen so far is different enough in that Shinsui would love to have Nanao touch his balls, and Stark feels quite the opposite with Lilinet. We really don't know much more about him, or most of the Espada, so it's a huge stretch to cry 'carbon copy'.

    Halibel is Soifon and Yoruichi because she's an angry silent female? She yells at the table to remind people not to underestimate the intruders. Soifon was the epitome of a lapdog until Yoruichi left her, so she changed with nothing in mind but becoming better than Yoruichi. I fail to see any connection, aside from the fact that all parties have breasts. Unless, of course, you know more about Halibel than the rest of us, in which case, please share.

    The black guy is Tousen because of justice? He hasn't even spoken yet. I'm not even touching this comparison.

    The old guy is Yamamoto because they're both old? Carbon copy indeed. Every character in Beach should represent a theoretical age group on their own.

    Aaroniero is Kaien and Ukitake? Nothing about him represents Ukitake, unless you stretch for his weakness to air. He has no leadership characteristics at all, and exists fueled by nothing but his ambition. As for Kaien, well, he is Kaien, and thousands of other things, but Kaien was dead before Bleach even started, so I don't see how that's relivent.

    Yammy is Ikkaku and Komamura because they fight for honor? Certainly they fight for fun, but so do plenty of characters in Bleach. But honor? What?! Yammy would use every dirty trick in the book if he needed to, because it would make the fight more fun. If he was so honorable, why did he even bother beating up Tatsuki and Orihime and Chad, and laugh at the opportunity to attack Ichigo when he was struggling with his hollow? Clearly honorable.

    These threads frustrate me, obviously. If you think they're so clearly identical to Soul Society, then you aren't reading the same manga as the rest of us. If you are, you aren't absorbing half of what you see. Parallels are unavoidable, and similarities do exist, but nobody in Hueco Mundo is a carbon copy of the people we saw in Soul Society. Hell, Aizen isn't even the same Aizen we saw in Soul Society, and neither is Renji, Chad, Rukia, Ishida, or Ichigo.

    [/rant]
     
  10. Urahara

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    /End thread

    *Reps Kribaby which would be his first time repping ANYBODY on these forums*

    -claps-

    that post there should be a sticky for those who disagree...i can't even start on how perfectly that was said :]
     
  11. Soul Vibe

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    thank you for pointing out the obvious
     
  12. Portgas D. Ace

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    this was all very obvious.
     
  13. AbnormallyNormal

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    i highlighted the ones i take issue with. how do we know the black espada values justice exactly? i dont see it. besides him and tousen being black i dont see the analogy.

    aaronerio was a punk espada, ukitake is #2 captain. no analogy.

    ikkaku is notihng like yammy, and komamura is only sort of similar to yammy.

    other than that you seem correct
     
  14. BowL

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    Your thread was raped.

    'Nuf said.
     
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    hay guys anyone notice that espada are similar to gotei 13 :omg?
     
  16. isanon

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    no :oh
     
  17. spaZ

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    QFT lol :amazed
     
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    I agree with this.
     
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    Obviously he also believes in "justice". He always agrees with what Tousen says so he don't have to speak. Problem solved.
     
  20. Metric

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    I agree with Kribaby - people look too hard to try and find similarities.
     
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