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EU Parliament votes to trigger Article 7 sanctions procedure against Hungary

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  1. Saishin Hajimemashite

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    In a tense vote, a majority of EU lawmakers backed a motion that opens the door to sanctions against Hungary. Viktor Orban's government is accused of silencing media, targeting NGOs and removing independent judges.

    Members of the European Parliament voted to censure the Hungarian government on Wednesday for eroding democracy and failing to uphold fundamental European Union values.

    The measure to trigger garnered the necessary majority needed to pass, with 448 voting in favor of the motion, 197 against and 48 abstentions. The move means that 's government could eventually

    Prior to the vote, it was unclear how many members of the conservative European People's Party (EPP) bloc, the largest political group in the European Parliament, would support the measure. Although Orban's Fidesz party is part of the EPP, several of the lawmakers voted against their Hungarian allies.

    Hungary vows to challenge decision

    Shortly after the vote, Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto slammed the decision as a form of "petty revenge" by "pro-immigration politicians" against Budapest for its tough immigration policies.

    Budapest is also looking into legal ways to challenge the measure. Szijjarto argued that the abstaining votes should have been included in the count as well, which would have changed the outcome.

    Juncker: 'I've given up' on reasoning with Orban

    European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, who gave a speech in parliament before the vote, told DW that he had "given up" on trying to talk with Orban about his hardline policies, saying "there are big differences" between the two of them.

    "I constantly explain to Viktor Orban that this radical rhetoric he's directing towards Europe helps neither him nor Europe," he told DW.

    What the vote means: The measure does not immediately penalize Hungary, but it opens the door for sanctions to be imposed. Wednesday's vote also means that a formal warning will be sent to Hungary for violating the EU's values.

    What is Article 7? Article 7 of the Lisbon Treaty opens a path for sanctions against a member state and a temporary loss of EU Council voting rights. The mechanism is triggered when one of the bloc's members violates the vales of "human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities."

    EU-Hungary tensions: Orban said the EU was targeting Hungary for refusing to take in refugees under an EU-wide resettlement quota scheme. Although Brussels and Budapest have repeatedly clashed over immigration and refugee policy, the vote on Wednesday addressed broader concerns with the state of democracy and rule of law in Hungary. A report by MEP Judith Sargentini, which triggered the Article 7 vote, found that Orban's attacks on independent media, academics, the judiciary, and the rights of minorities pose a "systemic threat" to the EU's fundamental principles.

    Historic vote: The vote was the first time that the EU Parliament considered launching the Article 7 sanctions process against a member state. The European Commission, the executive arm of the EU, launched Article 7 proceedings over its judicial reforms.

    What happens next: The motion will now pass to the leaders of the EU's 28-member states for approval. However, a unanimous vote is required to suspend Hungary's voting rights and launch sanctions — a move that is likely to be blocked by Poland.



     
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  2. Dragon D. Luffy Lord of Calamity

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    Well fuck those guys then. This shit has no place in the 21th century.
     
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  3. San Juan Wolf They're even better when you're dead

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    Yeah the unanimous vote won't happen guys. So this is just empty posturing.
     
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    What kind of parliament demands unanimous voting?

    That's... inefficient.
     
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    Imo letting Eastern Europe in was a mistake.

    They have never really been into the whole demoracy thing, with communism until recently and all.

    Should have waited for their societies to mature more first.
     
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    Not the parliament, the Council
     
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    "Accused of" that means there's no trial and that EU acting like a dictatorship.
     
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    AKA
    **sweeps in and says a bunch of stupid shit with no basis**
     
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    Your comparing refugees to ORCS?
     
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    What sensible outlook? That media should be censored and judges inteferred with?
     
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    It's really scary when people think ending democracy is considered a sensible position.
     
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    Sensible.
     
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    This one also provides a lot of details:

     
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    I guess this description fits a lot of countries, even USA. :murika
     
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    You know, I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt on immigration. Being against immigration doesn't automatically make one racist......but saying all refugees are part of an Orcish horde definitely does.

    Perhaps but perhaps this was meant as a signal to Hungary and Poland that they stand alone in their desire to neck democracy.
     
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    Please what does Eastern Europe actually contribute to the EU? Losing Hungary and all the Soviets former thralls will not cause the EU to fall. Germany and France walking out yes.
     
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    While it wouldn't cause the EU to fall it would put them into a "Well maybe Moscow isn't so bad afterall." POV which is the main reason the UK (Not France or Germany) pushed for them to be fast tracked into the EU in the first place.
     
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    Yes Well Trump wants to cripple NATO so seems like good times are ahead for Putin.
     
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    I think that would be incredibly silly for those countries. Russia has oppressed and terrorized its neighbors for centuries but when the EU wants its members to stick to the rules those countries themselves agreed to then Russia's suddenly the better partner?
     
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    Ther West seems to be losing it's maturity right now that made them admired in the first place.
     
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    Execute article 7.
     
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    That comes from the same people who now passed an internet law that can easily be used to censor critics. Disgusting hypocrites. They can whine as much as they want. Orban has a responsibility to his own people first and than the EU
     
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    "Do as we say or we'll punish you"

    - EU
     
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    Amazing response, I love the guilty faces :bury

     
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    More like "Be within these boundaries or we'll punish you".
     
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    Destroying Democracy and Liberty is bad, but if it's done to stop those damn muzzies then it's cool.
     
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    Funny how Orbán looks like he was sculpted out of meat there.
     
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