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European Parliament backs copyright changes

Discussion in 'The NF Café' started by GRIMMM, Sep 12, 2018.

  1. GRIMMM 2 B or not to B... with P90

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    Article 13 passing with no amendments. RIP in pieces memes.
     
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  5. Undertaker elect the dead

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    This whole section will have to either be completely erased or go back to what it was before it became a news dump :skully
     
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    Tbh who knows if this will even stick. Some EU countries already tried exactly this or something similar and it didn't end well. Individual countries might not back this and go through with it since this vote was within parliament and not anyone responsible for law making in each member state.
     
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    A method of trade war, plain and simple.
    Small and Medium sized outlets are excluded from the Upload filter.
    Its the big one, which incidentiall are all Americans, which have to install said Upload Filter.
    The EU has a trade surplus with the US, on which Trump likes to put on tariffs.
    But the US has a service surplus with the EU (which Trump never mentions by the way).
    But since these services cant be slapped with tariffs, making them pay for using content and installing filters is the EUs method of retalitaion.
     
  9. Ye Xiu Best Member

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    proof that these old retards are out of touch with reality
     
  10. Unlosing Ranger The Shadow of Death

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  11. stream Do something, Naruto!

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    The big question is if Google will play ball. When Spain tried to force them to pay, they just shut down Google News in the country. I suppose it depends how much they'll have to pay.

    The thing is, if you let the market decide how much web giants should pay to link to newspapers... The newspapers will end up paying the web giants.
     
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    So it's a lose-lose situation. This is why I have my doubts it'll stick. Either those goons in parliament are out of touch with reality or they're being lobbied by major news outlets to push this forward. If Google news shuts down, those outlets won't get any exposure, which means loss of revenue. If the outlets pay google, they lose money anyways.
     
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    Regarding the lobbyist - Axel Springer Verlag.

    In Germany they would technically get 64% of all revenues.
     
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  15. stream Do something, Naruto!

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    Yes, Google shutting down their news service would also advantage large publishers like Springer. It is the small outfits which benefit the most from news aggregators, because it allows them to compete with the giants.
     
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  17. makeoutparadise I will have my revenge

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    EU's governing politics is great, isn't it?
     
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    EU never saw a regulation it didn't like :catface
     
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    This guy own share in the French search engine Qwant that also propose a Qwant news page like Google but because Qwant is not seen as a big company, it won't be impacted by this new regulation.
     
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    The Web Giants should just punish the fuck out of the EU. This is a stupid ruling which is more about hurting the big companies than protecting copyright holders. The main reason why YouTubers can play video games and why sites allow things like Reddit to link to their news stories is because it gets them views and that translates into money.

    Exactly, this is about shutting out competition from American companies and trying to tilt the marketplace toward helping people who didn't innovate their way to the top or have a better product, so they had to be regulated into making it there.
     
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    this is a form of censorship. Memes are the easiest way to transport a political message
     
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    These people probably don't even understand the internet as it exists. The same way that a lot of the lawmakers here had to have fucking Facebook explained to them.
     
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    Or maybe they know it and do it for censorship reasons. We are one step closer to 1984

    It is also possible that the big corporation will try to pass the costs to the users.
    This is another proof why the EU needs to go. The majority of European citizens would never vote for this.
     
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    You think the Web giants can punish the EU? I would be interesting to check but I pretty sure the EU represents a significant part of their revenues. How do you want them to punish the EU?
     
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    There's still the final vote which happens in January, one can still hope. Hope....
     
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