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Evidence of Netero > Maha/Ging/Beyond/Humans

Discussion in 'Hunter x Hunter' started by Extravlad, Jul 18, 2016.

  1. savior2005 Well-Known Member

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    didnt netero himself say that there were 5 nen users stronger than himself??
     
  2. PwnGoatVSPandaman Narutoforums is cancer.

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    No, simply that he wasn't the strongest anymore.
     
  3. Crimson Flam3s Rampage Sage

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    This could be a logical conclusion after taking the manga facts and portrayal into account, but I doubt togashi looked that far into it.

    We tend to think that manga authors always think of the smallest details like a cold, calculating killer, but their "future" canon is often much different than what we come up with.
     
  4. tupadre97 Well-Known Member

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    I thought it was obvious Netero was stronger than everyone else. I mean literally everyone has said he was the strongest in the world. Vlad is right if he wasn't he would have definitely fought them he doesn't give a fuck. Thats the reason he does stupid shit like make Pariston vice-chairman and its why Pariston respected him in the first place.
     
  5. Milliardo G.L.P.

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    I can believe prime Netero is better.


    Edit: This is what I'm going off of.

    he did
     
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  6. Extravlad Banned

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    Here's clear evidence of Netero > every human imo





    Netero is thankful that he was able to meet Meruem because he's the only being alive whose can walk into a fight against Netero as the favorite.

    Also this
    Sounds like Netero had lost hop to ever find someone stronger than him definitely not the reaction you'd see from someone who ain't the strongest around.
     
  7. Finalbeta Bravo Ragazzo

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    It would be interesting to get the real gap between Adult Gon and Ging

    Also comparing the first to both Prime and Old Netero
     
  8. Milliardo G.L.P.

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    I can only see the first pic.

    Still there is a discrepancy since he claims to have went down hill with age bro.
     
  9. Saitou Hajime Well-Known Member

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    Netero was obviously being self-deprecating because of his age. Morel and Knov both believe that no other hunter stood a chance if Netero couldn't beat the enemy. They both believed he was BSing with the whole 'I'm just as strong as you guys" crap. He even betrays himself later on when he shows off his aura to Colt, wearing a shirt that's practically mythologized because of how rarely it's seen, and claiming that he hasn't been challenged in like forever.
     
  10. Milliardo G.L.P.

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    Well I'm sure to a degree he was exaggerating(like comparing himself to them) but to claim it was all 100 percent bullshit is a stretch. He obviously wasn't lying about when he got the title of world 's strongest half century ago and the part about age withering his strength has some truth to it. You don't stay the same your entire lIfe with skills, physically, and mentally. I see no reason why it would be any different here. Netero not being challenged in fight doesn't mean he was always challenging people either so who knows. Being weaker than Netero doesn't really hurt these guy's rep anyways and honestly it would be for the best that power levels didn't skyrocket well beyond it.
     
  11. PwnGoatVSPandaman Narutoforums is cancer.

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    Maha and Don are at least 2 people who are ahead of Netero.
     
  12. ironlich Member

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    Where's the evidence for that? Netero surviving maha is a big " when, where and how " so we know nothing. And don is an explorator hunter not one obsessed with being the strongest fighter and challenging the strongest fighters like netero was.
     
  13. PwnGoatVSPandaman Narutoforums is cancer.

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    "When where and how" is honestly just an argument on the fact that we don't know maha's style of combat in particular.
    Zeno is one of the most reliable narrators in this manga alongside Don and Togashi himself.

    Ging is an explorer
    Kite is a biologist.
    Botobai is a terrorist hunter and prosector

    Those 3 no matter how you view it are among the top of the pack.

    "not one obsessed with being the strongest fighter and challenging the strongest fighters like netero was"
    1) Prove he's not battle crazy
    2) He's immortal, he could have easily got bored of that
    3) If you're the strongest and immortal and pretty much god, do you go around trying to pick fights?

    Don has been in the dark continent for over 300 years.
    Don is the closest thing that the hxh has to a god.
    Don is a direct relative to Ging and Gon.

    Don is going to be the strongest, if you are resistant to this, it's only going to be harder for you. Don is the strongest character we know about and he will be the strongest unless we find out about others like him.
     
  14. ironlich Member

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    Unless we find out that don is actually dead :catcry
     
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    Not really, just because he says he is much weaker than he used to be doesn't mean he has found other people more powerful than him.
     
  16. Jouninja Well-Known Member

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    I remember Netero saying that he was less than half his peak strength that he had half a century ago when they where scouting the ant base. And yeah, he did say that he was about as strong as Morel and Knov, but later Morel and Knov said he was just being modest and is much stronger than either of them.

    So this means even though Netero is less than half his peak strength, he is still at least 20% to 100% stronger than top hunters. Which means at his peak, netero was at least three times stronger than any top hunter around except for really exceptional cases like Maha.

    Ging might be the only one around who is way above top hunters, probably at old Netero's level or higher, but probably not peak Netero{yet}. Unless some Dark Continent stuff he ate made him insanely strong, to the point of being in the league of actual peak Netero. Also, that time Netero was meditating on the peak in NGL that was scaring away animals and Killua, I think he was gathering Aura beyond his limits to regain at least 80% of his peak power or to have a higher than normal Aura limit to extend his fight time{and allow him to fire the Zero Beam}.
     
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    Where was it said that Maha is stronger than Netero?
     
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    Zeno, a guy modest enough to say he could possibly die in a 1 v 1 versus chrollo and who says when his son hypes him up as netero's equal that he is nowhere near that, that netero was an old man already when he was a baby.
    Anyway this man, who has a deep relationship with netero nonetheless and who is likely the last head of the zoldyck family before passing it on (he's still alive) to silva, and who is old and experienced enough to have more credibility than 99.9999% of the verse, and is modest enough to be more credible than anyone not named don or togashi himself, said while describing netero's power, that netero is the only one to escape maha, wording is important and even a 12 year old wouldn't use such wording accidently, this is togashi.

    If Netero was Maha's equal, he would have been stated as such.
    If Netero was "Even stronger than maha", that would have been said directly.

    Zeno is modest.
    Zeno is experienced.
    Zeno has enough knowledge on both characters
    Zeno knows of this event

    The realistic situation is that netero was in the dark continent with zzigg, zzigg given how young he looked and how old netero looked (since he ages slowly), is likely maha's son.
    Netero probably let's Mahalive in peace because he pushed zzigg into going into the dark continent and thus either resulted in his death or him being infected with ai, ending with zzigg turning to alluka.
     
  19. PwnGoatVSPandaman Narutoforums is cancer.

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    I think it's more realistic that Netero was more akin to morel but is a much better martial artist and has a strong hatsu.

    By going under the meditiation, he reached 50% because his body would still be limited by old age, it's just that netero was both out old and out of practice, this helped him get back into practice.
     
  20. Jouninja Well-Known Member

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    @PwnGoatVSPandaman That might be it, since if he was at actual 100%, he would have been able to injure Mureum.

    By the way, the guy in your set, has got to be one of the most menacing villains in any manga I've ever read, especially with the stuff that went down in the past few chapters.
     
  21. PwnGoatVSPandaman Narutoforums is cancer.

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    I mean, he did damage him.
    The way I view it, he'd do more damage but not enough to outright drop meruem, however the improved reaction time, improved speed, improved strength, and improved stamina would be too much for meruem's mind to overcome and thus he would eventually be defeated, I imagine by the time he gets hit by as many hits as netero did versus him (10's of thousands), he'd probably he acking in pain, and that he'd be able to land that many hits in around a fifth of the time it took to land that many hits in their fight (which btw was very short since they were moving on a much higher wavelength than normal humans)

    Eventually meruem would go down but it wouldn't be a 10 second fight in their own eyes at least (though might end in 10 seconds since both are godly)

    Also satou is an absolute legend, he's pretty much the reason to watch/read the series.
     
  22. Jackalinthebox Well-Known Member

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    Only thing capable of beating Meruem is a nuke
    :cantrustleme
     
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    And poison. Seriously, the guy became godlike and then he dies because of poison? Killua would have done better because of poision resistance :catryoma
     
  24. ~M~ Do it for her

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    No real world logic can surmount the inherent progression in a story towards rising action in most narratives
     
  25. Jackalinthebox Well-Known Member

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    Well Killua wouldn't have survived the nuke, so the poison wouldn't even matter. The poison had to kill Meruem I guess. Not like anyone was capable of defeating him in a straight up fight
     
  26. ironlich Member

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    Maybe not 1 on 1... but netero + zeno maybe they could have accomplished the task. Ofc they need a strategy, like netero keeps mereum down with the buddha hands, while zeno sends dragons to do further damage. Even tho he seems invincible, he will eventually start to feel pain and the pain will become internal injuries.

    Love how every writer forgets that even tho your character may have invulnerable skin, muscles and bones, the brain is still going to suffer trauma because of the continous beating.
     
  27. Sequester Not the hero The Alley needs, but the hero The Alley deserves

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    Dunno, you think Killua was exposed to radiation as part of his assassin training?
     
  28. ironlich Member

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    The manga talks about a lethal poison, not radiation.
     
  29. Jackalinthebox Well-Known Member

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    Meruem would've blitzed Zeno and cut his head off. Dragon Lance wouldn't do much damage if I had to guess. And Post Nuke Meruem is a completely different story, he wouldn't even get a scratch from Zeno's strongest attack. The King's durability was insane if you really think about it.
     
  30. Sequester Not the hero The Alley needs, but the hero The Alley deserves

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    Well the typical type of poison that is attributed to nuclear weaponry is radioactive contamination. I seriously doubt the mini rose was laced with some foreign poison, that would be dumb.
     
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