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Five Kage Summit is one of the best arcs in Shonen.

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    I will separate this in 2 main points, Naruto and Sasuke. Of course, there are a lot more things in this arc but with both Naruto's and Sasuke's character development is enough to place this arc as one of the best in Shonen.
    Naruto
    -It showed how Naruto is not perfect, that even though he is strong, he's still insecure and suffers from anxiety(which is basically a deconstruction of the typical shonen mc). Kishimoto isn't afraid of letting Naruto fail, he has a lot of failures since he brought Tsunade back, he kind of broke the streak with Kakuzu's fight, but after that, he fails again in retrieving Sasuke and I wouldn't consider his fight against Pain a success , given that he almost breaks the seal and destroys everything(including Konoha) and killing himself in the process.

    -This is the arc Naruto is faced with the cruel reality of the Shinobi world. He made a lot of promises and all of a sudden all of them seem to contradict each other and it looks like the world itself is against him.
    He wants to save Sasuke and protect the village yet Sasuke seeks the destruction of Konoha, and Konoha wants to kill Sasuke. Protecting him could lead to a war with Kumo, fighting and killing him would protect peace but break his promise and probably Naruto as well, it's obvious that he doesn't want to kill his best friend, after all. He struggles to find an answer to peace and on top of that now his friends are ok with killing Sasuke...Not to mention that he's still a teenager, a lot of people don't like the panic attack scene but I think that it's more than justified, it's realistic and a nice touch to show Naruto's anxiety and stress.

    Sasuke
    First of all, I know that a lot of people dislike Sasuke because they don't get his character at all so I will put you on context.
    It’s pretty obvious that he’s not a sane person(understandable because of all the shit he went through). He wasn’t sane even before Itachi’s reveal so it was obvious that he would end up even more insane after that. So now we have a traumatized teenager with no guidance at all -something very important, at Sasuke's age and more importantly in his case, it'd be essential to have some sort of guidance yet he has none- who acts like everyone would act in his situation, taking the worst possible decisions.

    -This arc shows us Sasuke's descent into darkness, how far he is willing to go to in order to fulfill his goal, his insanity, his twisted sense of pride and his incredible black and white view of the world.
    To Sasuke there is always an "us vs them" situation, he labels someone as the enemy and then is incapable of thinking that maybe the other guy is not that bad, that it could be more of a gray situation. Which is also helped by the fact that he is broken and tries to repair himself by seeking revenge.

    -Less cool: The anti-hero trope, in any media, they often use the traumatic childhood of the characters, as an excuse to make them cool and badass, which couldn't be more stupid.
    You have guys like Lelouch, Accelerator, etc. That due to their tragic and traumatic childhood, become cool and badass.
    The thing is that that is a horrible representation of what traumatic experiences do to people, Sasuke's character is actually a deconstruction of this trope, he’s a realistic representation on how trauma can affect people, he’s not your typical character that is cool and badass due to his sad backstory. He starts as a cool badass in part 1 and the more Sasuke descents into Darkness the more unlikeable he gets and is less cool and badass and more insane and rotten.
    Sasuke is a fascinating and very well-written character and this arc shows us his complexity and insanity.

    -Sasuke also works as a mirror to Naruto. Sasuke is like a mirror to Naruto, he is Naruto if he was corrupted by the system, even Naruto says that he could have ended up just like him.
    Sasuke’s point of view is necessary because it shows us the “ugly side” of the Narutoverse, the story of a traumatized teenager obsessed with Revenge that is that way due to the fucked-up system.
     
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    Yes, it is and I don't care what you say. You're wrong period.
     
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    It isn't and I'll stick to that.

    I'm not wrong to say Kage Summit arc isn't the best arc in shonen ever.
     
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    That's not what I said... can you read? I said one of the best. O N E O F T H E
     
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    Ok, grammar tightpants....

    I T'S N O T E V E N O N E O F T H E B E S T.
     
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    It is. And as I said, I didn't ask for your opinion
     
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    You put yourself wide open to opinions as soon as you made this thread.


    You're gonna get people who will bring evidence to why they disagree. And they aren't wrong.
     
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    Dude, not even if the only shonen you saw is Naruto, is that arc one of the best.
     
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    I saw a lot of shonen(FMAB, HxH, Naruto, KnY, OPM, DB, etc) and yes, it is one of the best arcs.
     
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    Ain't that the same arc where yo coolest boy hyperventilated over some emo boy with a brother complex:breh
     
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    First. Stop using the word "emo" when referring to Sasuke.
    Second, yes and it was good writing, you would know if you had read my post
     
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    Nonsense, the only naruto arcs that could possibly be considered one of the best are the sausage retrieval arc,chunin exam arc& the pain arc, the rest were mediocre.
     
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    Funny how you said nonsense while spreading nonsense
     
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    Bullshit, that scene was straight up cringe, it was awful.
     
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    Nope. It was a good scene, it makes perfect sense in context. As I said Naruto was feeling anxious, depressed and stressed. He was obligated to take the most difficult decision in his life.
     
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    What nonsense did I spread?, are u implying that there are arcs in naruto that are better than the ones I mentioned?, If so then you've been choking on that coco cola for far to long.
     
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    I'm saying that there are lots of good arcs in Naruto.
    Wave arc, Chunin exams, Sasuke retrieval mission, Kazekage retrieval mission, Itachi & Jiraiya arc, Pain arc. Five Kage Summit Arc, Turtle island arc
     
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    Personally I liked the Kage Summit, but mainly because I found Sasuke going crazy hilarious.:lmao


    Definitely not one of the best arcs in Shounen though.
     
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    gross...:tchpepe
     
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    It wasn't hilarious but tragic
     
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    It was an unnecessarily cringe-worthy scene that only help to further ruin naruto's already terrible character.
     
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    LMAO, how can someone be so wrong? After saying something so asinine, I'm doubting if you have read the manga
     
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    And i'm beginning to doubt your sanity, how can anyone with a functional brain think a toxic&unhealthy scene to be remotely good.
     
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    Toxic&unhealthy =/= bad. A lot of people suffer from anxiety and have panic attacks.
    Why Naruto can’t also have one, given all the shit he went through and that he was about to take the most important decision of his life, it makes perfect sense.
    Naruto is more complex than most shonen Mc and thus he shows more emotions, he’s not always happy, he suffers, breaks down, struggles, etc. Like an actual human being.
     
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    the entire arc was shit

    naruto was shit, sakura was shit, sasuke was shit, the plot was shit, easily one of the bottom tier arcs in the manga
     
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    Really the only good arc are when naruto and Sasuke goes after legends. that and jiriya.

    when Sasuke went after Itachi. when naruto and Sasuke crashed the summit. when Sasuke went after Danzo. thats about it. the rest of shippuden was pretty bad imo.
     
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