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Food Cart Destroyer Vs PS

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Hussain, Jun 15, 2018.

What will happen?

  1. The same thing happened to Kurama

    63.6%
  2. PS will not be effected (put down) at all, and will not flinch.

    36.4%
  1. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    He didn't tanked anything since the TBB destroyed what in front of Kyubi not himself as we can see in manga's you've already provided.
    Furtheremore, it's not a concidence if Madara used PS's armor to protect the physcially way weaker Kyubi in order to tank the explosion.

    Never said otherwise, and that's why PS nor Kyubi avatar can never fair well against a regular TBB or Chidori Susano'o of a construct which is physically of the same calibre.
     
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  2. Azula .

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    Bijuudama explosions are spherical as you very well know and they cover everything surrounding them.

    Kurama was put in a choke hold and then dropped somewhere else and the bomb in his mouth exploded similar to when Deva dropped the six tails. He is covered with the dust that explosion kicked up.

    6 tails tanked it's own bijuudama explosion against Deva, you gonna make an excuse for that too?

    MADARA USED PS TO PROTECT HIMSELF FROM THE BIJUUDAMA BLAST.

    :hestonpls:hestonpls:hestonpls:hestonpls:hestonpls:hestonpls
    :bookerskully:bookerskully:bookerskully:bookerskully:bookerskully:bookerskully
    :tupac:tupac:tupac:tupac:tupac:tupac
    :mjlol:mjlol:mjlol:mjlol:mjlol:mjlol

    HE WOULD BE PASTE IF HE DIDN'T GET SONETHING TO COVER HIMSELF.

    Holy shit common sense flies out the window when it's a Madara-Hashirama thread.
     
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  3. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    Not necessarely, and as provided , Kurama used the same TBB process as here :




    Guess they were caugh in the explosion because a TBB is only a spherical explosion which always touches the Bijuu who launch it :hestonpls

    You have to show me this, 'cause I don't recall Kishi drawing such a thing. Well, unless you have some personal conclusion because...you just want it to be so because of some mysterious reason lol.
     
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  4. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    The Juubi tanked it's own TBB when B returned it into him (to the inside).

    Did not stop him from falling when Onoki's son moved the ground under his feet. :mjlol


    The Asspulldara excuses are foolish. Not that I am surprised or anything... :troll
     
  5. Azula .

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    Pein drops a boulder on 6 tails to stop it from targeting him, that's precisely what Minato does and the bomb explodes being 1 foot away from his mouth, because of interruption.



    I guess I could claim by that 6 tails wasn't hit by anything.
     
  6. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    Which only deflected TBB's trajectory by physically droping a huge rock on KN6's head?otherwise Deva path would've being reduced into nothing.
    Or let me guess, Tendo who got temporarily knocked out by a mere SM Naruto's punch can survive a frontal explosion of KN6's TBB.:bury

    And again, sure thing, the TBB exploded in the midst of Kurama's corps (go look again how TBBs works in the pictures that I posted previously) :
     
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  7. Hi no Ishi Well-Known Member

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    What an odd assumption! If FCD works it must be because Kurama is weak rather that the Jutsu being strong.

    When has portrayal ever worked like that?

    Kurama, a physical being =/= BM Naruto a chakra construct.

    Also that still does not negate the effects of gravity.

    The TBB were no where close to him. The closest one on panel is more than 3 Kurama's away from them.
    The fists are also mostly destroyed before they are any where close.

    Not even Kinda the same thing.

    Also being punched and being tackled work different In every medium.
     
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    Are you implying the 50% Avatar is superior to 100% Kurama?
    • 50% Kurama unmoved by Juubidama Laser over several seconds of direct exposure
    • 100% Kurama collapsed by a frog sitting on him
    You don't see the inconsistency here?

    Are you implying 13+ TBB fallout didn't extend beyond 3 Kurama's?

    Kurama is in the middle of that. It extends dozens of mountains in height and dozens of mountains in length. Argument destroyed.. moving on.

    Just so we're clear - FCD isn't even equal to the power of one Senjutsu Buddha Punch - let alone hundreds which Madara's PS took and remained unmoved on top of the TBB fallout around him. The punches were literally hitting , no different than the location of Gamabunta's drop.

    Do not tell me a dropping frog will move PS when hundreds of Hashirama's strongest attacks did not.
     
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    Nothing much, PS might move a bit but that's all really, no outlasting damage
     
  10. sabre320 Well-Known Member

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    You do realize full kurama has his yin half aswell right?.... If you claim ems madaras sussano is much stronger then sasukes you also have to realize that full kurama would have another freaking kyuubi half .....the combined explosion of the two techniques envealoped the avatars in an explosion larger the vote1 and caused only superficial damage....yet you thiink a bijudama would blow it away....narutos bijudama literally detonated inside of its avatars jaw....

    Madaras ps blocked kyuubis standard bijudama with its swords....the bm avatar blocked the juubis laser with its tails an attack that overpowered 9 detonating bijudama and vaporized a mountain range after....really you think a standard bijudama busts it.....even the damn hachibi with seriously lacking durability feats in comparison survived its own bijudama unguarded....and kn6 tanked its own without a scratch....
     
  11. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    No, Rinnegan Sasuke's PS is way stronger than EMS Mads, Naruto only matched him because of RSM insane amp.
    Overall : Rinnegan Sasuke's PS = RSM Naruto's avatar > EMS Mad's PS >> 100% Kurama physically speaking

    It's not the combined explosion, Chidori actually heavily reduced the impact of Naruto's TBB upon PS and TBB heavily reduced the impact of Chidori upon Kurama avatar.
    If Sasuke was the only one to use Susano'o Chidori, Naruto would've being screwed, same goes if we reverse the roles.

    BM avatar only deflected Juubi's beam trajectory for the price of losing his tails, if he actually received the full blow he would have being reduced into nothing with extreme ease.

    And he ended up uncapacitated.

    Never ever happened, KN6's TBB only blew away what was in front of him and that's it. No more no less.
     
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  12. sabre320 Well-Known Member

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    Where exactly are you pulling the ps>>>kurama from exactly??? We saw they were completely equal physically while kurama has much more endurance and firepower.. if you use the reasoning that ems madaras ps is greatly above then that gets more then balanced by the fact that full kurama has another kyuubi half amping it,....

    Did you not read the vote panel sasuke hit narutos bijudama while it was literally in the avatars jaw...narutos own bijudama detonated in his own freaking jaw....reducing force dude no... the resulting explosion from the two techniques was superior to either techniques power alone and caused an explosion larger then vote completely engulfing the avatars....yet in the vote1 battle you go on to claim that madaras ps tanked an explosion so massive when all it was hit with was the hands left from the sworddama barrage....

    The bm avatar straight up stopped the juubi laser it blocked it fullstop changing trajectory lol no. The avatar blocked an attack that is superior to 9bijudamas and has the additional power too vaporize a mountain range after no problem....and naruto only lost the tip of the avatars tails not the full tails which regenerated moments afterwards causing no lasting damage at all....yet you claim that madaras ps blocking one standard bijudama with both his ps swords is a feat that is far above full kurama dude wtf are you saying?
     
  13. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    He pushed it and deflect above him into numerous laser beams with his tails, that's why he lost them.
    Meaning he only took a little part of the impact.

    Nah, he lost like 50% of each tail

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    A TBB can completly reduce most if not all RSM avatar to dust as per canon, so ? Naruto must thank his own TBB which reduced most of the impact into nothing for surviving Sasuke's Chidori Susano'o.
     
  14. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    Both of them were pushing each other, the TBB didn't exploded in the Kyubi's jaw nor in PS's arm, both Jutsu clashed in hte middle.
    But if Kurama avatar was proportionnaly as durable as PS, he would have tanked his own TBB's explosion with "zero damadge".
     
  15. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    I really thought Minato fans couldn't get worse, now I'm in a thread where FCD is being compared to Bijuudama, even the Juubi version. :oh
     
  16. Kyu ~ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ ~

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    Like with Kurama, FCD knocks down PS temporarily, but doesn't inflict any damage upon doing so.
     
  17. Azula .

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    I see that @hbcaptain has decided to drop the point about Madara using Susano to "protect" Kurama.

    Madara used Susanoo to protect himself first and foremost just like Hashirama was scrambling to cover himself with mokuton defense as the bomb was about to explode.

    Both Madara and Hashirama would be dead if a bomb exploded in their vicinity.

    We can't forget simple things like Madara and Hashirama are still humans who can be killed, when swept up by "Founders hype"

    WRONG.

    6 tails BD wasn't deflected at all. 6 tails cornered Deva at the edge of CST, the slope created by CST hitting Konoha and that's where the bomb ultimately exploded.




    There is no deflection, no change of trajectory. Why would there be anyway? It took 3 rashomon gates to even deal with an inferior KN form and the boulder here is falling at KN6 not absorbing and redirecting explosion like Orochimaru's gates did..



    The examples you are citing are when a Bijuu is free of any outside influence to launch their attacks.

    KN6 vs Deva and Kurama vs Minato both the times Kurama was put in a chokehold and was unable to properly launch it's attack. That invalidates your argument that they were able to launch their attacks in front of them

    Their bombs misfired on them.

    The highlighted areas you have posted, their is a part of the building that survived in the full page. The destruction was pretty uneven. :blobshrug



    Why wouldn't a Bijuu, who is 12 times stronger that 8 tails, tank it's own attack?
     
  18. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    >Hussain makes thread to ask how Minato can beat Madara FCD would effect PS
    >FCD is now being compared to Bijuudama

    Da faq? :lmao
     
  19. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    Fixed :


    As this little tip can't possibly exist if KN6 didn't launch his TBB from here.
    In other hands, you only rely on blurred pictures to conclude what you want from them.

    I didn't, it's just that you need really an extremely heavy argument, because I know evey Jiraya fans won't accept it and just say something like "Madara only used PS to unsure his protection" of the likes of it.

    In other hands, as we can see, wood human who is physically as strong as 100% Kurama was completly wiped and turned into nothing, and Hashirama was forced to use an advanced Fuinjutsu on top of Mokuton's ability to neutralize Bijuu chakra in order to survive the explosion :
    Spoiler:
    "Wood Release: Hōbi Technique

    The flame of the beast is eaten by Hashirama's sealing technique. Taking advantage of the nature of Wood Release, the attack is weakened. At the same time, the user hides inside the wood demon whilst the fierce attack of the tailed beast is warded off."


    Which also prove that Kyubi would've being at least severly stomped without Susano'o protection.

    They were not, I don't want to reread all manga evidence that I've provided before.

    Hachibi was severly injured and Juubi isn't Kyubi (his body is extremely sturden even for his own chakra), we know from the Sasuke vs Naruto fight in VoTE2 that a normal TBB can completly wipe the ass of Naruto's avatar.
     
  20. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    The Jiraiya fan angle, "Jiraiya can beat KN4 even if he uses TBB... but he wasn't going out so he can beat KN6 and it means he's stronger than Pain". :lmao
     
  21. Azula .

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    I have decided to give up @hbcaptain.

    You are rating @hbcaptain's posts so you should have an idea of what we two are arguing.

    We are arguing whether both Kurama and PS are strong enough to tank BD and how this strength relates to FCD being used on both.

    It branched off of FCD being used on PS and PS tanking BD. Not comparison between FCD and BD.

    Your inability to understand and follow how the discussion branches off explains a lot about your posting actually.
     
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    Knocks Susano'o over, but deals no real damage.
     
  23. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    A Jiraiya fan (yourself) seriously believed that the way Kurama and PS tank a BD is actually something which can apply to FCD.

    Talk about fangirlism. :lmao
     
  24. PradyumnaR Lord Second

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    If might guy, Kakashi and the others could topple GM, who had 7 biju in him already, then why not. Ps is highly over rated here like Hebi Sasuke.
     
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  25. PradyumnaR Lord Second

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    This shit is like saying Mike Tyson can take a punch to the jaw so trying to get him off balance or toppling him won't work because the punch he took was more powerful.
    Shit logic if ever. FcD isn't meant to do anything like BD.. Its function is different and that function will be fulfilled even on a PS. Whether the PS user let's it is another matter. But if it does, it is going to topple it.
     
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