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Frieza's Supernova (Frieza Really Wasn't Kidding)

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome Calculations' started by ShieldsPlus, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. ShieldsPlus Steal My Sunshine

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    Based on these two calcs:



    Notes:

    Edit:
    Assuming that the density of Planet Vegeta is the same as Earth's, the surface gravity increases in direct proportion to the radius of said planet. Thus, we will change some things, a bit.

    If the density of Planet Vegeta is the same as Earth (considering the planet itself is similar to Earth in appearance, it should have the similar composition/density to Earth as well), if...
    • the surface gravity of Planet Vegeta is 10x that of Earth
    • the radius of the planet would also be 10 times that of Earth.
    The reasoning is explained ​
    • Based on Gallavant's calc, the true low end here is the time it takes for the entire mass of the planet, the last piece of debris (including the core), to leave the screen.
    • The distance from surface of planet to the inside core is about 63710km
    • It took just over a second to do this.
    • Gallavant's calc directly pixelscales the core of the planet to the end corners of the screen, when you should be angsizing instead.
    Let's do this.

    At 33.958 (just before the planet explodes), the planet is shown here.

    At 34.999, all the parts of the planet leave the screen.

    Angsizing
    • 2atan(tan(70/2)*(301/360)) = 43.22 degrees
    • Size of Planet Vegeta = 127420 km
    • Plug into the angsizing calculator
    • Distance to Planet Vegeta's surface = 108820km
    • Distance to core from Planet Vegeta's surface = 63710km
    • Total distance = 172530km, or 172,530,000m
    Timeframe
    • 34.999 - 33.958 = 1.041 seconds
    Velocity
    • Distance/Time = 172,530,000m/1.041 seconds = 165734870.3 m/s
    Mass of Planet Vegeta
    • Gravity = 10 G
    • Diameter = 127420 km
    • Mass = 5.965e27 kg
    Kinetic Energy
    • KE = 0.5*(Mass)*(Velocity^2) = 0.5*(5.965e27 kg)((165734870.3 m/s)^2) = 8.192345e43 Joules, or 1.958e34 Tons of TNT; Large Star level
    Frieza's attack is literally called the Supernova.
    Alternatively, an acutual supernova releases about 1 to 2 foe, according to .
    1 Foe = 1e44 Joules.

    Edit: Well, that is the final value, I guess.
     
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    a possible upgrade?

    anyone can check this out?
     
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    I haven't really tried doing many gravity based calcs myself to really analyze its legitimacy, but the resilt isn't too far off from solar system level either. /inb4cellsclaimwasright
     
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    Actually, just noticed you used Newtonian KE. Since the speed you got is about 0.72 c, you'd need to use relativistic KE, which could end up with a higher result... which might also justify relativistic+ Namek Saga DB too.
     
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    Frieza is the gift that keeps on giving
     
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    Considering how consistent Frieza's claim was in regards to the Supernova, it is highly likely that Cell's SS busting claim is correct as well.

    Also, there is a massive blog post done in regards to why Cell is a SS buster, and it wouldn't be an outlier if 1st form Frieza is capable of this kind of stuff.

    Edit: mfw God Movement reads this thread.
     
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    ....will santa claus come?
     
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    It begins and ends with this presumption:

    If everyone is ok with this then the rest of it checks out.
     
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    So the other calc is ok?
     
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    Large planet level+ SS Piccolo when
     
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    We got multy galaxy lv piccolo

    Also do we have any estimation for namek's size?
     
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    I get 2.364e+44 joules/2.364 FOE using relativistic KE. :cat
     
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    Look i would really like this calc to get accepeted but does anyone have a problem with planet vegeta being ten times earth i obviously dont
     
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    Large star level? :catthinks
     
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    Only issue is planet vegeta size but if its accepted


    Large star lv + frieza first form
    Piccolo goku and maybe gohan

    Also cell statement should be accepted
     
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    with this same reasoning the planet king kai should be 10 times larger than the earth also

    Or not?
     
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    Yep, pretty high-end of that DC level too. Also would make Namek Saga top tiers and beyond relativistic+.
     
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    Considering that Bulma was able to walk on the atmosphere of Namek, it's likely that the size of it isn't much bigger than our own (unless Namek is less dense compared to Earth or something).

    Assuming that the density of Namek is different compared to that of Earth, we can only infer to the size of a planet by their surface gravity for the most part.

    @Jay: Except that we clearly see King Kai's planet being shown to be not much bigger than a house + garage.
     
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    Except the fact that king kai is in heaven and thus applying real life physics is shaky it was destroyed and remaied so...
     
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    Let the shitstorm commence :catcane
     
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    Just read an old discussion and noticed that krillin with his unlocked potential said he should reach gohan in a few hours and that krillin was faster than goku in saiyan saga
     
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    You are just here for the shitstorm arent you?
     
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    What? the physics of the king kai world is different, which makes the declaration of your planet have 10 times the gravity of the actual land? And consequently the planet Vegeta?
     
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    I'm just more amused with how Pre-Super Dragon Ball manga is slowly catching up with its Toeiverse counterpart. :maybe
     
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    i didnt quite understand

    also you should know king kai's planet was destroted by beerus and king kai made it by using parts of his old one
     
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    believe in super
     
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    Oh sorry, I'm in Italy, I do not speak very well English.

    But what I mean is that the arguments are complementary. If the severity of the king kai planet is 10 times greater than is the Earth, this means that his world at least with respect to the same physical world of the living

    Otherwise he would not say that the planet Vegeta has the same severity that his
     
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