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Gai and Kisame vs Itachi and Kakashi

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Nice Gai, Nov 28, 2005.

Kisame+Gai vs Itachi+Kakashi

  1. Kisame and Gai beats the daylights out of them

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  2. Itachi is on any team would win

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  3. They all die

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  1. Nice Gai Black Kamina

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    Who would win some brawlers or some geniuses? You pick!
     
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  2. martryn Dick in hand

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    This one is too hard. They all die. This is literally a toss up for me. It could go any way.
     
  3. CrazyMoronX Old Man

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    Interesting match...

    Gai is about even with Kakashi, except he is one point ahead.

    Kisame is inferior to Itachi, but he's not to be taken lightley, and is surely superior to Kakashi, since he was better than Gai at base form.

    My reasoning for Kisame: Gai wouldn't use gates against Kakashi, too risky. So base Gai = Kakashi, Gai + Gates > Kakashi. Kakashi + MS > Gai however... and = Gai + Gates, so they are still about even now.

    Anyway, back to the fight.

    Kakashi seems to be a bad match for Kisame, and Gai seems to be a bad match for Itachi. Lightning and water doesn't mix well, and Kakashi has the Raikiri.

    I see the fight going either way. Although team Gai is at a disadvantage, since Kisame is weaker than Itachi, a better partner would have been Sasori. But I digress.

    Kisame fighting Itachi, Itachi would win, but it's no picnic. Kisame knows Itachi, has seen him fight presumably, and knows his moves. Not good news for Itachi.

    Same goes for Gai vs Kakashi.

    The reverse would be a more interesting fight, since they are new to eachother's styles, so I base the fight on that.

    Gai vs Itachi = Itachi wins, unless Gai goes all out from the beginning with 6-7 gates.

    Kakashi vs Kisame = Kakashi wins, unless Kisame has an answer to Kakashi's Raikiri and Sharingan, which is yet to be seen.
     
  4. vagnard Well-Known Member

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    What we know....

    Itachi > Kisame

    Gai = Kakashi (Gai can be stronger using the gates, but Kakashi is more intelligent, have the sharingan, black hole no jutsu and he has better genjutsu and ninjutsu....he can even use the dogs to distract Gai or immobilize him at the beginning of the fight)

    So....I'm sure that in the worst of the cases...Kakashi can hold his own at last until Itachi defeats Kisame and then Itachi + Kakashi defeats Gai easily
     
  5. Tousenz Banned

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    Seriously... a main character and a main villain vs there subordinate/inferior rival = Team Sharingan ftw.


    2 Mangekyou users, cant look in either's eyes are your in a genjutsu, See there taijutsu before them , can send them to another place in the narutoverse...exploding bunshins..


    Gai isnt everything you guys make him out to be...
     
  6. Jonas Banned

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    So you mean that they would win because of the status they uphold in the Narutoworld? When you're arguing in the Battledoome, there is no such thing.
    You only think about the fighters abilities.

    IMO, Gated Gai could be giving Itachi some asswooping, since that kind of speed Itachi would not be capable of dealing. Also, knowing Kakashi should give him some slight advantage since Itachi is also a Sharingan user. Same goes for Kisame but the opposite.

    IMO, Kisame can woop Kakashi. Why? Loads of chakra/stamina plus Samehada. Seeing as Kakashi like to take 1 hour to light up Raikiri, Kisame could suck his Raikiri dry with Samehada. I think that Kisame could just keep bringin' suiton jutsus til' Kakashi lives no more.

    One question: If Kakashi does a Raikiri and touches water, shouldn't he also be fried? :S
     
  7. Tousenz Banned

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    Dont even start with that....


    Idk how many threads I had to hear Tsunade's Hokage and a Sannin.
     
  8. Jonas Banned

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    Have you heard it from me? Then quote, please :laugh

    No, but what i mean is that what role they play in Naruto doesn't matter.
     
  9. vagnard Well-Known Member

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    Then you are saying that Gai can asswooping any character in the series?. Even the sannin, sandaime or the other hokages?...If Itachi who is very fast and has a mastered sharingan can't see or react against Gated Gai...who could do?. Why Jiraiya (who isn't a speed demon) could defeat him?. Itachi was praised for his seal's speed. If Itachi can't react enough fast to defeat him why Jiraiya could do it if he don't showed nothing more faster than Itachi and he hasn't a sharingan?.

    Speed isn't everything...like I said in another post. Old Sandaime had only 3 in speed because his age and still was considered the most powerful ninja in the village and not Gai.
     
  10. KuwabaraTheMan Eternal Love

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    Gai and Kisame use speed and strength to create a quick and massive assault, forcing Itachi and Kakashi into the defensive. I think their abilities are well suited for taking on the two Sharingan users, especially as the two of them know the Sharingan better then anyone who doesn't have one.
     
  11. TheoDerek Rise Against

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    This would be an extremely good and long battle. I'm probably going to be labled some sort of "tard" for this but IMO Mangekyou tips the scales. The jutsus that are usable with MS are extremely powerful and two people firing these off would be too much for almost any two man team.
     
  12. KuwabaraTheMan Eternal Love

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    Kakashi's aim is crap, and that was against Deidara. Against fast ninjas he'd be lucky to hit somewhere within 10 feet of them.

    Not to mention Mangekyou jutsu's wear the user out. Kakashi was tired from just one, and 3 uses left Itachi completely spent.
     
  13. Jonas Banned

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    I did not say he couldn't see him, nor he couldnt react. His eyes may react and see, but what the body is capable of is another thing. I see this like Lee vs Sasuke back in genin graduation.
     
  14. Nice Gai Black Kamina

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    Dont sweat it man! I made this thread for opinions. As long as you give reasons no trippin here. I admit I am not a sharingan fan but they kick ass. The good thing is the sharingan probably wont be too much in this battle due to both opponent being around them for so long. I like Gai he has his trump card for emergencies but Kisame and him will probably just have too much stamina. Itachi and Kakashi are pretty skilled without the sharingan so it will be who is the better ninja.
     
  15. TheoDerek Rise Against

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    Kakashi can fire his 3 times. 1st Deidara's arm, 2nd Deidara's bird things head, 3rd when Deidara was about to blow his bunshin up. Kakashi's aim isn't perfect but I'm almost certain that with the ammount of jutsus he knows he has somthing that could leave Gai or Kisame open for a MS black hole thingy. Also as far as we know Itachi has perfect aim with his Amaterasu. And I'm sure 3 shots from Itachi and Kakashi would be enough. They're both extremely intelligent, they are not going to fire it off like morons.
     
  16. vagnard Well-Known Member

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    But this isn't Lee vs Sasuke. Lee's speed in that moment was >>>>>>>Sasuke's speed...and Sasuke only had 2-tomoe.

    Itachi is the sharingan master. He is much more experienced than Sasuke. He has 3-Tomoe, he has Mangekyo Sharingan, he can cast regular sharingan genjutsu like Kakashi did in his fight against Zabuza, he can cast regular genjutsu from his fingers...etc.

    Not only that. At that point Sasuke had to use taijutsu because his only useful ninjutsu at that moment was katon. Itachi knows suitons, katons, genjutsu, exploding bunshins. Sasuke catched Lee weightless's speed in only a month. Itachi is a greater genius than Sasuke and he is older. I doubt that Itachi's speed is too far from Base Gai. With 3-tomoe you can counter an opponent way faster than you...like Sasuke did in his fight against Naruto.

    Gai can't see Itachi's eyes or hands....so he can't know what ninjutsus Itachi will use or when he will use. Like I said....Speed isn't everything. Jiraiya, Tsunade and Sandaime are considered more powerful than Gai and no one of them is faster than Gai...or have a sharingan like Itachi. If Itachi who has the sharingan and showed a better speed than Jiraiya can't react or move enough fast to evade Gai...who could do?
     
  17. Devilguy Darkness over 9,000!!!

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    Kishimoto would make brains triumph over brawns. Of course with cunning and alledgedly versatile characters, it all depends on Kishimoto's creativity, which is something we can't emulate here.
    Kisame & Kakashi vs Itachi & Guy would be extremely well balanced.
     
  18. earthshine Banned

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    hmmm, brains v.s brawn

    itachi and kakashi for the win though

    i think kakashi can take gai, and kisame has no real genjutsu protection
     
  19. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    Yeah,

    I think Gai can actually defeat Itachi.........at least 6/10 fights.

    I think Kakashi and Gai would probably be equal in battle. But I'd say Kakashi would win 6/10 fights.

    I think Kakashi would defeat Kisame 6/10 fights and I think Itachi would defeat Kisame 10/10 fights........

    I'd say Kakashi and Itachi, but not easily.
     
  20. heavy_rasengan Active Member

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    ITachi and KAkashi take this easily. They win either way. Itachi can take Kisame and now Kakashi will be able to take Gai. We hav no proof of gai and da 8th gate so we cant go dat far yet. If he releases 6-7 gates he still done bcuz Kakashi has da sharingan to fight with, which means hell be able to c gais movments, his intelligence surpasses Gais and Kakashi is basically better at everything else.

    If it was da other way around.
    Itachi will easily defeat Gai. Itachi is more skilled at everything except Taijustu and thats not a big factor considering Itachi is a master of sharingan. His sharingan will let him c gais movements easily even if he is at da 8th gate(which i dont think is possible YET) I cant really say gai has a chance 1 on 1. Itachi's intelligence FAR surpasses Gais.
    Kakashi wont be able to handle Kisame, Kisame is just to much for Kakashi, Kakashi was having trouble with Zabuza and Kisame is basically Zabuza with choujis red pill. Yes dat was pre time skip and kakashi didnt have MS BUT, Kisame is trained against it.
    Kakashi is smart so hell go on da defensive until itachi fnishs owning da living shit out of Gai, Then itachi will come and own Kisame.

    THEN, kakashi will invite Itachi 4 some ramen and itachi will say "no" cooly and walk away with da wind blowing his hair :):);)

    JUS TO LET U KNOW, im not a itachi fanboy:)
     
  21. Geese Yep

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    Kakashi's h4x would give him a huge advantage here and we all know Itachi pwnz Kisame (even without resorting to power levels, he could simply copy some of his suitons then let him have it with Tsukiyomi), so (hate to say it) but Team Sharingan for the win.
     
  22. heavy_rasengan Active Member

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    LOL WTF? itachi not great at it? itachi is a genjutsu specialist, of coarse hes great at it.
     
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    It is best if you stay away unless you want flame.

    Kisame and Gai have the resources to win they are both fast etc.

    But lets face it they aren't that smart, i could see kakashi and itachi out smarting them.

    The only way i see them winning is if Gai opens 8 gates and kisame has some uber jutsu.

    Or if the mist technique works without being dispelled then it even between jutsu no sharingan advantage, so i would be a battle of jutsu and skill. In which case it could go either way depending on what either pair know.
     
  24. heavy_rasengan Active Member

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    stop writing this shit about gai and his gates. His gates will easily be countered by bunshins that he doesnt know about considering, hes looking at his fuking feet.
     
  25. Logical Reasoner Using Logic to debate

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    So hard ...

    I think Itachi and Kakashi will win, but it's really hard backing up my situation. Nobody here knows how good Gai's opening of the gates are... will opening them make him 10x faster? 5 x? 10000x? But we know for sure that Kakashi is at his limit... MS ... Kisame and Itachi we haven't seen fully yet, so... I'm putting Itachi > Kisame and Gai and Kakashi as about even, cuz of Gai's gates and Kakashi's MS.
     
  26. Devilguy Darkness over 9,000!!!

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    Thank God that Kishimoto hasn't given crazy numbers like in the Chouji vs Jirobou fight...
     
  27. Insipidipity Ignostic Buddhist

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    Agreed.

    He shows time and time again that brains triumph over brawn. Even in the Naruto fight, his cunning was the main reason he won other than Kyubi. He outwitted Neji when it came to hiding among his Bunshins, and he outwitted him even at the end of the match.

    The only exception is when a Youma is in the equation(only because Youma have an unmatchable level of brawn)
     
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    Gai uses all 8 gates, then proceeds pwn Itachi and Kakashi

    Gai Dies

    Kisame is still stading

    Winners- Kisame and Gai
     
  29. Devilguy Darkness over 9,000!!!

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    Kishimoto would be very poor if he had your imagination.
     
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    That doesn't really disprove anything though. :oh

    8 Gates Gai could prolly kill either Itachi or Kakashi. If he's smart, he'll get Itachi and try to maim Kakashi. However, Itachi has MS, so if he kills Kisame immediately, Gai = utterly screwed.

    And yes, I realize it is an utterly terrible reason to say Gai's team wins in a 2 vs. 2 because he uses 8 Gates, but hell, I imagine at somepoint people thought Gaara could win everysingle battle because he could just fly into the sky and drop a mountain of sand down.
     
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