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Garp Wank and possible powers

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Sherlōck, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Sherlōck

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    Garp
    • Had death match with Roger.
    • Possibly beat ROX captain.
    • Was offered Admiral position but denied.
    Physical strength

    The only top tier without any DF or weapon. He has the best non-DF lifting strength in the manga and destroys mountains for training. IMO it possible he has superior strength compared to WB.

    Haki

    In terms of Haki Garp might just have all 3 three and specialize in COtC like his grandson.

    His COtC would be capable of destroying physical objects. Monstrous CoA haki that's on a level above all others.

    Rokushiki

    Garp compensates not having DF with Rokushiki techniques. He would be the ultimate master of it.
    • His Rankyoku would compete with Shanks sword slash
    • Tekkai+Haki capable of taking WB's quake attack with little damage
    • Shigan piercing the opponent like Kizaru's laser
    • Soru that allows him to cover kilometers in distance.
    • His Rokuogan would destroys continents.

    Imagine Garp's punches doing Kaido level damage while his rankyoku is on the level of Shanks air slash. While he would lack in DC compared to Prime WB but his versatility would more than make up for it.
     
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    Well, either he has better physical strength or CoA than WB's or both. Otherwise how can he be on the same level at him in Prime (unless that's fake news LOL)? It looks like this

    PrimeGarp's punch = physicality + CoA ~ PrimeWB's punch = physicality + CoA + Quake fruit

    Since WB has that DF extra it's obvious Garp had to train his physicality and CoA even better to compensate for the gap.

    You can just have a great fruit (most preferably Logia for that intangibility) and be near high-tier. Add in decent Haki and you can be high-tier. The thing with top-tier is they have both monstrous DF, Haki AND Base stats. Then there's Garp who is in that league with his own stats + Haki alone. Unless he secretly has the Human fruit model Hercules or something.
     
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    "His Rokuogan would destroys continents"

    Ok
     
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    still pining for that continental DC :dotell
     
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    Oars was the continent puller.

    Garp is the planet puller.
     
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    Women gave him the epithet

    " THE FIST "

    :dotell
     
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    WB was the only one who was able to tie Roger in a fight. Which means that Garp lost fairly significantly.
     
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    In his prime he was probably closest person too Roger/WB strength, but never actually on their level.

    No it just means Garp lost.
     
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    I don't get the purpose of the thread. But since I like this character, that is what can I say about him:
    no questions about his Prime strength. he was a monster
    but right now he is probably overrated if you scale him to a guys like Ray and Sengoku
    Current Garp<yonko,admirals,mihawk and possibly some of FMs (like Beckman and Shilliew)
     
  10. Sherlōck

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    Unproven BS.

    We will have Exaton EoS characters when BB will stop earths rotation. :dotell
     
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    *Buggy says WB was the only guy to tie with Roger

    *Roger himself says they nearly killed each other numerous times.

    I'll never understand how people put more stock in the first quote.
     
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    TBH I would say,

    Prime WB's punch (Physicality+CoA+Quake fruit) >>> Prime Garp's punch (Physicality+CoA)

    The difference won't be big though. If WB's DC was 100 then Garp's would be 98.
     
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    Roger said that while he was asking Garp for a huge favor. He has a reason to sweet-talk him.

    No it means what I said.
     
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    Prime Garp being equal or even close is strength to Prime Roger is a common misconception among a lot of fans. Only Prime Whitebeard was equal to Prime Roger, no other character comes close. In fact, Prime Roger and Prime Whitebeard are honestly in their own tier.

    This argument seems to stem from Roger claiming that him and Garp almost killed each other many time in the past. Okay? Where does it say that this took place when Roger was in his prime? Because going by that logic, Luffy is going to be Pirate King level one day, and he was almost killed multiple times by Crocodile, Rob Lucci, ect ect. Are they all equal or near equal to Pirate King Luffy now? What about Kaido and Moria, once upon a time they were equals, are they still equals to this very day?

    All that quote means is that once upon a time, Roger and Garp were close in strength, but Roger clearly surpassed Garp. Just like Luffy surpassed Arabasta Crocodile and Water 7/Enies Lobby Rob Lucci, and just like Kaido surpassed Moria.

    Whitebeard declined in power more than Garp did (he's literally on an IV system with a fatal illness), and Oda still introduced him as the World Strongest Man, not Garp. Heck, even after Squardo stabbed him with a giant sword, Sengoku (someone who knows Garp's strength best) still addressed Whitebeard as the World's Strongest Man.

    No character stands a chance against Prime Roger or Prime Whitebeard in a fight, they are in their own tier.
     
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    Shiryu's no First Mate. That would be Lafitte among all Teach's minions.
     
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    why him?
     
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    He did overpower a continent splitting attack without much effort tho so it isn't far-fetched.
     
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    How is 2 percent difference signified by ''>>>''? I used ''~" which already means they are not equal, just close.


    Viz translation does not have this at all. Roger just said they fought several times. Nothing about the degree of equality. That said there was another quote that is consistent which is Garp cornered Roger a lot but that was spoken by fodders and it does not necessarily mean 1vs1 so...
     
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    1. Teach's representative at Mary Geoise.

    2. Infamous enough for a legendary Marine like Tsuru to recognize him.

    3. Told the crowd at Marineford his posse's dastardly plan.

    4. Chastised Pizarro and Burgess when they showed disrespect to the Blackbeard.

    Lafitte's the only one among Blackbeard's pre-ID friends who's acknowledged as a notable sinister force independent of Blackbeard rather than just treated as a thug/henchmen like the others and repeatedly polices the behavior of his crewmates. He's at least a Perospero (lead assistant).
     
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  20. Shiba D. Inu

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    Post the viz pages of tge Garp-Roger talk
     
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    You're in denial.

    Garp factually cornered Roger and you're trying to downplay him by saying it was only during youth even though this is negated by chapter 0.
     
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    You have proof that Garp cornered Roger when Roger reached Pirate King level? Then post it.
     
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    @Cursemark

    And also explain why Garp wasn't considered the World Strongest man. I want that and proof that Garp cornered Roger in his prime.
     
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    That's like your opinion man
    Bold of you to assume that the only times Garp could challenge Roger was before his prime. Especially since by the time Roger was considered Pirate King, he had came down with the illness anyway

    A man with the greatest destructive DF declined more then a man who has to exclusively rely on his physical ability?
     
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    How did Garp cornered Roger?

    Was it with a fleet and throwing objects at Roger's ship or was it in person?
     
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    You're doing the same thing the previous poster who quoted me did Typhoon, which is not providing an explanation for why Garp wasn't considered the World's Strongest Man.

    Yes someone who has an illness and needs to be an IV support system and gets heart attacks while fighting has declined more in strength then someone who none of these thing apply to, why is that surprising?
     
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    Whitebeard was allegedly called that even before Roger died. It's just a title.

    Garp only had his physical abilities to rely on while whitebeard had a DF which isn't tied to his physical ability. Garp's deterioration would be greater. Whitebeard without his DF is significantly weaker than Garp.
     
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    Where did you get this source of info from?

    Why are we separating Whitebeard from his devil fruit?
     
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    this forum does not allow direct link from manga site (tch, strict). I'm too lazy to imgur now. You can go to mangaseeonline and read chapter 551

    But I can type the exact dialogue. Roger simply said ''we've been fighting each other for years. I trust you as much as any of my shipmates''

    That's it. Nothing about nearly killing each other. Some other infamous incorrect trans are, in Viz's trans Luffy never said Cracker's CoA was better than DD's (simply ''his CoA is too hard'') and WB never said Shanks vs Mihawk shook the Grand Line (just that their duel is legendary).
     
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    vivre card databook
     
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