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Gohan: From Badass to Yamcha tier.

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by LordPerucho, Mar 3, 2015.

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  1. LordPerucho Well-Known Member

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    I feel a bit bad for the Gohan fans, how his characater that was one of the best characters in DBZ is now a jobber like Yamcha.
     
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    Meh, Japanese don't like Gohan. Never liked him either, but I do like the fact he's not afraid to kill, unlike his father.
     
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    It's a shame. If Gohan had continued training after Cell, maybe he would have had SSJ3 by the Buu Saga.

    I think the real reason Gohan got nerfed it because Toriyama wants the cast more simple. By that I mean only Goku and Vegeta being the people of any real use.

    It's just easier to write that way. And it keeps their rivalry intact.

    If Gohan were consistent with his Cell Games self, he probably would be the strongest. With Vegeta going from 2nd to 3rd. I imagine that'd hurt his pride even more considering Gohan's not even a full Saiyan.
     
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    Future Gohan is still a thing :awesome
    And he ended his life on a high note.
     
  5. Arles Celes The Psychologist

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    Gohan always hated fighting and was hardly all that eager to train either.

    Guess its a way of showing that even those with the greatest potential will be left behind the less talented ones if they do not polish their skills.

    Same with Goten and Trunks.

    Also since Goku is meant to stay the main character so Gohan will never become his successor. Especially since he prefers to be a scientist.

    That and the fact Gohan already unlocked his full potential and got no more secret power to awaken. Vegeta took even Gohan's ability to dramatically increase his power via getting angry as it happened in BoG.
     
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    and he was weak as shit

    it seems the more badass you are the weaker you are
     
  7. Plague Punches People in the Face

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    That's something he has in common with Bardock I guess.

    Both were noble but not that strong.
     
  8. NaS I'm PC, bro. I'll throw down.

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    He was pampered by his mother. Gohan had great fighting instincts, just lacked the experience.

    No, because Vegeta proved that theory. As much as he trained he would have easily attained SS3. You pretty much need magic influence for that because of the amount of strain it puts on your body. Goku did it because he was in Other World. Gotenks did it because magic.
     
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    Hit the ground like a scrub, and he went down before Piccolo..
     
  10. Prince Vegeta Get Over Here

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    Gotenks did it while he was in RoSaT/ the hyperbolic time chamber and that's a different realm from earth so that's one reason and Fusion is another reason.
     
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    Gotenks existence is based off magic. He is able to create ghosts. Hyperbolic chamber is really a distortion of time. Time being a factor why he was able to stay fused longer.
     
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    meh, I already have the Invincible comic for a properly written post-Cell Games Gohan
     
  13. NaS I'm PC, bro. I'll throw down.

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    I remember this lol. Gohan was fodder when Vegeta put him in his place.

    [YOUTUBE]bSJodgDKaxw[/YOUTUBE]
     
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    Who in Invincible is like Gohan?
     
  15. [S-A-F] Femto my boy!

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    Toriyama went and made him GT-tier. :psyduck
     
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    Gohan badass HA. There were only two times he was badass first time SSJ2 vs Cell and then Mystic Gohan vs Super buu
     
  17. Vandal Savage The Magician Supporting Staff

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    As a Gohan fan I can't even begin to describe my disappointment in how he has turned out after the Cell Games. All that potential and power consistently wasted because he can't ever become Goku's proper successor due to fandom. Also because of his mother. :facepalm
     
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    Yes, I, also, was very disappointed at what happened to Gohan after the Cell saga; Toriyama definitely wasted him as a character, and the same is true with Goten and Trunks, as well.

    From an in-story point of view, what would happen after Goku and Vegeta die from old age? Would their children be certain to keep themselves in top fighting condition in the case that more threats to Earth, or the universe as a whole, emerge?
     
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    Yeah I don't get Japan's beef with Gohan. (and their over the top love of Goku)

    I like Goku and all, but he's pretty simple if you think about it.

    Not saying Gohan is complex, just (in my opinion) more interesting, being a hybrid and all. He seemed more likely to weigh the consequences of his actions as opposed to the other Saiyans. (Well, Battle of the gods threw that out the window when he got drunk and shot his pregnant wife lol) But that's what I felt from him before.
     
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    You forgot the time he laid a beatdown on Freeza.
     
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    Mark is like a way better version of adult Gohan
     
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    Maybe Gohan will shine in 'Resurrection of C' xD
     
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    The trailer already proves that's not true.
     
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    Don't like his character since his fight with Super Buu anymore. He didn't simply get carried away like with Cell, no, he gets cocky as fuck and makes the same mistake over and over again.
     
  25. LordPerucho Well-Known Member

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    Time to bump this thread because it has been confirmed Gohan cant go mystic anymore.
     
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    I give him a pass with Cell.
    Mostly because he was 9 at the time (11 in the dub), and it was his first time using SSJ2.

    Now when he fucked up with Buu, I think that had more to do with Plot Shield.
    Toriyama wanted Goku to beat Buu so he made Gohan lose. Simple as that.

    My biggest issue with Gohan is the time in between Buu and Cell.

    Knowing that he is the last line of defense on Earth, I think it's out of character and even plot pulling that he didn't train at all during that time.

    You would think that with the weight of that kind of responsibility on your shoulders, you'd train a little "just in case".

    Gohan not being able to go Mystic anymore just seems more "convenient".
    >___>
     
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    The sad thing some don't realize is that he was always Yamcha level. Everytime he gets a new powerup or transformation, people want to say he changed. He hasn't changed. He is still a smuck. If you go back and really think about it. You will know I am right.

    He never developed to be his own fighter. Only character to dress up as Piccolo, Vegeta and Goku and bring shame to all three.

    I bet in the next movie, someone will say "do it now Gohan". But he wont, and never will

    Gohan a shit.
     
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    I don't understand this whole 'I haven't trained for a while so now I'm weaker' thing. Is it to do with ki or their bodies?
     
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    Probably both. Atrophy for the body and loss of muscle memory. And if they are not progressing then they are regressing. You are not the same person we at 30 years that you were at 20.
     
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    Never minded Gohan but to see how irrelevant he became truly is disappointing. Last badass moment was against Super Buu.
     
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