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Goku losing is unacceptable

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball Telegrams' started by Juub, Mar 8, 2018.

  1. Juub

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    >17 sacrificed himself so Goku could stay in.

    >Vegeta stood in his Base form getting battered by Jiren just to buy time for Goku.

    >He could have been ringed out no less than three times but each time was saved by the plot.

    >He was gifted two new forms on a silver platter despite doing NOTHING to achieve them.

    >MUI is a form even the Gods of Destruction struggle with.

    Still can't muster a win...

    If Goku loses it will truly be unacceptable. With all the sacrifices that have been made to keep him in, with all the bullshit power ups he got and all the PIS that was written for the sole purpose of making him stronger, losing is not an option. I honestly did not expect him to win and I've been pretty vocal about that but I didn't think Toei would go that route. There are hints he'll lose. Goku hasn't beaten a major villain since Frieza. He's had the most bullshit power ups in the least amount of time ever and still he can't win?
     
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    Have u read the spoilers?
     
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    Toei can't write anymore confirmed.
     
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    Yes and word is Jiren rings him out but I'm unsure whether Zeno will let them continue or not. GP might step in and give the win to Jiren.
     
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    I want the series to end with GP asking what Freeza's wish will be and him cracking a smile before the credits roll :bury
     
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    Yeah that would be pretty dope.
     
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    the problem is that Jiren is the Kylo Ren of DB

    the guy of 127/128 that acted like an asshole would never be allowed to win at this point

    but they already changed his character in 129 again (that scene where he smiled ...) and will probably continue to portray him more positively in 130
     
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    Good. I freaking hate goku and his free power ups.
     
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    :camby
     
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    This. The ^ (use bro) should've been out a long time ago, surprised he lasted this long when he wasted stamina faster than Vegeta. On the bright side, I'm glad Freeza finally gets his time to shine and be the one to finish off Jiren. Goku winning is too predictable.
     
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    Why is not this on the telegrams
     
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    I knew they were gonna pull some crazy shit with Freeza, but I always thought there will be a double knockout.

    They are giving Goku 2 new forms with so much badassery, and just after 2 episodes making him lose? The form will feel worthless if Goku still lost to Jiren after asspulling so much power. I low-key wanted Goku to get his first major win in DBS, but I would have settled for a tie with Jiren for Freeza's sake.

    SMH, I'm disappointed. DBS ending with Goku having 0 major W.
     
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    its perfectly acceptable.
    Jiren is simply not the type of character that looses.(in a fair match)
    deal with it.
     
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    It is shit writing. The "predictable" excuse is bad, when they do this to make things unpredicable we get shit like kaguya, aizen's defeat, or this bullshit. At least Jiren and freeza are cool and that helps a little but damn this is anticlimatic.
     
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    Just yall wait when real body hit flexes his time stop and kills zeno. Plot twist: El Hermano hired him to.
     
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    @Xiammes could you move this thread.
     
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    idc if its predictable or not.
    i like this better than goku beats Jiren and the ToP ends.
     
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    So many spoilers on this thread. :catshivers
     
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    You like it better that Goku presumably wear Jiren out so hard that Freeza can take him out and that's a better ending?

    It's literally so fucking contrived that Toriyama should put down the fucking pen and never EVER touch Dragonball EVER again and nor should anyone else.

    Let it die. Every time they touch it after Z they ruin it.

    I'm probably going to sort this in the GT slot in my mind, as non-canon fan servicy fuck shit and then go watch DB and DBZ back when the series was quality.
     
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    I like it.

    1) It gives Goku a goal if after UI he STILL couldn't beat Jiren.

    2) It validates Jiren as a serious threat, and justifies his laziness at the beginning of the ToP if he held power even above mastered UI.

    3) It breaks the cliche of Shounen MC's getting asspull power-ups and defeating the end antagonist. Sometimes even after all your struggle and sacrifice you STILL lose. That's a welcome change in message from usual Shounen tropes.
     
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    Krillin was gonna kill Vegeta with a regular sword by the time the Z-Fighters were done with him so this wouldn't the first time this has happened before :blobshrug
     
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    yes , i like it way more.
    and whats wrong with Jiren being worn out after fighting MUI?
    the only thing you can say is , its a shame the series is ending , that means frieza winning wont really matter much.
    idgaf where you sort it.
     
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    no man, Goku had his last major victory on Namek. A welcome change would be Goku actually taking a big W again
     
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    You need to read Journey to the West.

    Goku loosing to Jiren and Frieza The God Emperor surviving by pitting Buddha against Sun Wukong is an outcome that happened centuries ago before you were even born.


    Not anyone fault you don't read good Literature.
     
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    I’m happy that he lost
     
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    He killed Freeza in Revival of 'F', though.
     
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    that was basically the same "lol we have to go against expectations!!11" bullshit though, because Vegeta should have done it.
     
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    and I wouldn't really say killing someone who was beaten by someone else is a major victory
     
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    Goku losing is always acceptable. Love to see the main character supporters hurt and love to see how Toriyama twists things up.
     
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    I'm done with super, not because of goku losing lmao idc... (Vegeta fan here btw) but because the trash that keeps coming up is about to be set to win.

    This is just shit writing.
     
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