Discussion in 'House of Uzumaki Archives' started by Mess, Sep 16, 2005.
has anyone tried to meditate by using one?
no... but I do sometimes form them when I fidget, or when I'm really bored. I dunno... does bored stupefaction constitute meditation?
I don't use hand seals to meditate, but I often go through them to test my memory.
I guess you could say it's a *form* of meditation...
when I do it I mostly just kid around but I feel wierd when I do it
I've never actually imitaded the hand seals... Okay so maybe I do Shikamaru's thingy when I play chess, but that's not actually a hand seal.
well, for the most part, at least in ninja meditation, you use the handseals to trace out different kanji in alternate lines with you eyes closed while controlling your breathing with the tip you your tongue lightly touching the roof of your mouth.
Like all other meditation, the purpose is just to maximize concentration. There is this one handseal, Ive seen kakashi do it, where you extend only your left index finger up, and hold that finger with the other hand and push your thumb nail into the side of the nail of the index finger and you feel a shock-like sensation. This is supposed to redirect chakra to the third eye.
shikamaru's thingie eh?
yea whats that.
anyway yeah i've done handseals before, lol its fun to do when youre bored. Why not, as long as you don't really walk around doing them when u pick a fight its not that bad.
Well actually doing that in a fight and winning would be hilarious.
Does anybody know about bujinkan ninjutsu? They use the hand seals in that (called kuji-in). When I first saw Naruto, I was surprised that a manga writer actually did some research. Many of the kuji-in in Naruto are ones that I'm familiar with. There are 81 in all, nine 'sets' or 'strengths' of nine elements. They are energy, power, awareness, psychic, time/space, elements, concealment, healing, and zen (understanding). They were done in a certain order and were supposed to strengthen a ninja in various ways, although they're really just shortcuts that you program into yourself to change your state of mind. For instance, in order to master the awareness seal, you would perform that seal while keeping your awareness of everything around you as high as possible. When you have meditated under such conditions enough, your mind attributes that hand seal to that state of mind, and when you perform it, your mind automatically remembers to be aware. It's just a mind trick. As you go, you would learn different "powers" of the kuji-in, and they would do different things as you got better and had a better understanding of what they would accomplish. I hope that clears it up for you. I have meditated with a few of the hand seals, and I have found that I'll often automatically do them in certain situations, mostly the awareness one. Also, in order to master the "zen" seal, you would simply meditate on koans while holding it. They weren't really any different than "magic words" (mantra).
i find the hand seals uncomfortable to do...and its impossible to do them in a sequence without whacking your hands together.
not like ive tried. cough.
i've tried them once when i was really bored but they're really hard to do...
This has got to belong in some other part of the forums
i wonder why none of the un-noob people come to these threads?
i do them sometimes when i'm bored. i can do the sequence for kawarimi no jutsu (ram, boar, ox, dog, serpent), and my friend can do chidori. it can be fun at cons, i suppose.
nope...think someone said...performing handseals from Naruto is one of the signs you watch/read it too much. Hey, if it works for you...by all means...I say go for it champ.
i dont meditate.
hehe, il admit i tried to learn a few seals...this one time i got heartburn when i did katon gokakyu no jutsu, so it mighta started working...
ok now seriously...
um.............ok....................(Slowly walks towards the door)
I'm a buddhist and I haven't seen anything so far about LION hand seals or rat hand seal to meditate..
You could do it.. but. there are not in the Buddhist seals.
Good luck!! ^_^ and I have tried the ones sasuke does..! SOOOOOOOOOO HARDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!! it takes a lot of time to make those seals
errr.... honestly no. and i rarely meditate
I don't meditate.
Tried the seals. Difficult but fun. My brother can do them much faster. Maybe because he plays guitar and has better fingers coordination.
Hi, for those who wish more information about kuji-in, here is a bit:
This can be found at
The Nine Hand Seals Technique and its related teachings have their origins in the Hindu religion where they were initially used by a few groups from the lower castes. These mystical techniques were a means used by the monks to bring the virtues of the spirit into mundane experience. The original form was not as developed as the system we have today. Thus, this historical perspective refers to the origins of the current system, not the modern Nine Hand Seals Technique as it exists today. Buddhism came out of Hinduism, and, with it, the Nine Hand Seals Technique became ever more popular. The original mudras remain the same as those taught in ancient times, but Buddhist mantras were also added to the system to enhance it. The original mantras were in Sanskrit. They are invocations and celebrations of the various Buddhas. The Buddhist movement later traveled to China, where the tradition was passed on to the hermetic and esoteric groups extant there. Boa Pu Zhi, a wise Chinese master, was the first to put the nine hand mudras on paper, in his work published around the 3rd century AC. Eventually, the techniques migrated to Japan, along with esoteric Buddhism, where the mantras were translated into Japanese phonetics.
The modern Kuji-In technique is composed of a ritual process comprising the traditional application of the Buddhist ?three secrets? (mudra, mantra, and mandala). The true Kuji-In secret lies within the contemplation of that philosophy which we use to change our attitude about life. The goal of Kuji-In practice is not to acquire strength, control, healing powers, telepathy, etc... These are only side effects of practicing the rituals and focusing a bit on the governing philosophy. Most people learn the technique simply to attain one or more of these powerful side effects. By aiming at such a mundane goal, their limited focus will ultimately result in the attainment of 1/10th of what they could have achieved by practicing Kuji-In to the fullest. The real path of Kuji-In is the quest to know the truth about ourselves. It is a contemplation of higher principles, an application of noble behavior to our daily lives, and it requires the mental ability to perceive knowledge that is not studied, but revealed. Once a revelation occurs, the side effects mentioned earlier will develop rapidly and without effort.
A Kuji-In teacher transmits these techniques according to his own experience of its revelations. Since the technique was transmitted orally to many different groups, by many different masters, the organization of the root knowledge remains the same, but the ritual aspect has changed somewhat over time. Thus, there is no dramatic change in the system, because the true knowledge of Kuji-In is acquired through revelation, and the various ritual techniques inevitably stimulate the mind towards the same goal, which is the revelation of truth. As long as the ritual practice is applied, the side effects eventually manifest. The general public sees the manifestation of these side effects as the most obvious sign of the attainment of mastery and generally (and mistakenly) believes that they are the intent of these practices.
Some Kuji-In practitioners are adepts of meditation, and, according to them, the Kuji-In technique is a way to deepen meditation. Other Masters are Adepts of the martial arts, and, for them, the Kuji-In techniques build the profound inner powers of the warrior. Sorcerers will say that it develops the ability to manifest magical phenomena. Peasants and farmers might say it is the technique used to attract good fortune and stimulate good crops! Those who speculate on such matters suggest that there might be around 4000 different schools practicing these techniques around the world, each transmitting the technique with their own unique variations. Some Buddhists use a Qi Gong dance along with the 9 syllables, while others sit still in meditation and use a longer version of the Nine Mantra prayers. The application of the principles doesn?t matter. As long as the Kuji-In philosophy is the proper foundation of the ritual technique, the desired results will be attained.