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Hawkins was Actually Kind of Impressive

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Etherborn, Aug 3, 2018.

  1. forkandspoon The only things that never end

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    Virgo wouldn't have elbows if he was ever in the same room as Zoro.
     
  2. Gledania Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

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    The same argument repeated over and over again ... :blobcookie




    Rivalry with luffy means shit. Coby promised he will catch him at some point that doesn't mean he is equal with him now. Smoker promised he will catch him on his honor. Yet luffy is leagues above him. Moria fought in par with Kaido and is still trying util now to reach the PK title (read chap 481 again) and yet he can argably lose to any calamity (knowing jimbei soloed him).

    Even Law who everybody see him as the new "WB" is nothing to be considered ever as a "rival". Rival for what ? He wank the strawhat since PH , Luffy realised his dream in his place , is litteraly giving him orders ,and is league above him in term of bounty , alliance , portrayal , fights , ect ...

    Some SN may reach the title of yonko in the EoS (and then again , SOME) that doesn't mean the like of Zoro Sanji Cavendish ect are no going to reach them , surpass them , beat them , or are not actually equal with them. None of them did half of what luffy did since he started the post time skip. Worse , since he entered Grandline.You can't put all of them as equal with luffy to make them above Zoro and Sanji.

    As for the daifuku level argument I will not ask you AGAIN , to show me what little remain as EVIDENCE for your claim. :blobtimistic



     
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  3. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    Zoro one shots Vergo with any of his named moves
     
  4. Mr. Good vibes ZZZZZ

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    Mfw looking at some of the post in this thread.:scust

    No wonder @God Movement rarely post here.
     
  5. Yamato ANBU- Sadist

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    I wonder if he’s got something else up his sleeve once his ten lives are over
     
  6. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    Except Luffy isn't leagues above Smoker, Smoker is Law leveled and was beating Vergo who is stronger than Zoro until he had to change styles to get the heart secretly. Then he fought a fresher doflamingo than luffy did while heavily damaged and covered in bandages.

    Moriah was heavily out of shape and he's going to be coming back too.

    Also that comment honestly has to be false outside of law's comment which is more about popularity, oda directly writes one piece, he has absolute control on if they lived or died.

    Zoro, Sanji, and Cavendish aren't going to reach yonkou tier, sorry not sorry.

    Luffy has dumb luck plus had help. Like take away the supernova and luffy would have died during both dressrosa and whole cake island.

    The gap between luffy and zoro is huge, the gap between zoro and sanji is decent.

    A non serious daifuku shat on sanji while oven is around sanji leveled, this is pretty much the zoro vs sanji gap.
     
  7. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    What happens when zoro's swords break when they hit vergo's buso and when vergo weaves around his swords like he's a fodder and shigan's zoro in the throat?
     
  8. shisuiuchiha5 Well-Known Member

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    Vergo struggled against an INJUNRED sanji,Zoro would shit on vergo easily.
     
  9. Etherborn Blade of the Myriad

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    I drop your fanfiction, that's what happens. :catpathy

    How did this thread turn into Zoro vs. Vergo again?
     
  10. Gledania Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

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    Using your reasoning then :
    Sanji was vergo leveled cause he send him flying and clashed equaly with his kick. For a moment.

    No . Smoker get his own ass kicked. We clearly see him fighting with all what he had at first , then was beated after a good fight. He could have beaten vergo THEN return law's heart. Vergo litteraly broke his haki covered weapon.

    Law mid diffed smoker. Law was injuried and weakned when faced DD too, probably more than smoker. Yet he dodged him , blocked his attack while using coA , harmed him with injection shot.

    Smoker was low diffed by DD. No worse , raped in one sec.


    If he strugled against fucking vergo I don't wanna know what will happen with crackere ....


    Yeah. And an "out of shape" kaido would lose to pre time skip SH crew.... kaido pacifista level:hestonpls

    Zoro is going to reach (or even surpass) prime Rayleigh at the EoS when luffy will reach or surpass roger (and Sanji reach/surpass the 3rd mate of roger , allways forget his name). Ray who stalemated with kizaru even after staying YEARS without using a sword and being quite old.
    This is more enough to believe he will reach the yonko level.

    He is also going to surpass mihawk , who is rival with shanks. I'm unsure where to put mihawk .I put him between admiral and yonko level since he is the strongest shishibukai and they are the third pillar of strenght, so they need at the very least one fighter to equal the yonko cause either way they are not the third pillar if they can't fight at least one yonko crew.

    Yet people still argue he and shanks WERE rival and fighted IN THE PAST so they are not neccessary equal now. (Wich make sense I agree).

    So luffy being "rival" with the SN give them the same level or a "moderate" gap, and give them the assurance that they will reach yonko level , but shanks should fodderize mihawk who is necessarily a 2nd or 3nd yonko commander level cause he clashed vista ,even if they were rival ???

    You see the double standart here ??

    We may argue he was going to introduce them later and then changed his mind. But oda is litteraly saying that half would be dead or leave the NW. That's the new world. Not a pirate game.

    Unless you have another translation of the interiew , this comment from oda stay true.

    You mean he was the only intelligent here to make Alliance from the start ? Bege had "help" too. What did he do at WCI ? Got injuried by BM ? Flee like a little girl after shooting Oven from far and failing to kill BM ??? Wonderfull.
    :hestonpls

    It doesn't matter. What matter is what level luffy reached. He is way above them. Assuming luffy is FM yonko commander level , X drakke is right under Queen Jack and king ( using the cards ranking , and since he is a yonko commander).

    Then again. Let's wait for a serious fight from zoro where he gives his best like with kaku and daz , and then we will see what's the gap with luffy.

    Sanji clashed with daifuku. He didn't fight a dead fight. He was surounded by Bm crew and was trying to save his sis.

    Give him a place when he can give his best in orther to beat daifuku AND THEN we shall know his strenght. Also no way you can know the gap between the sweetcommanders and daifuku.
     
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  11. Soca The Mud and the Oil Super Moderator

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    Let's stick to the actual topic, thanks.
     
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  12. Erkan12 OP and DB Expert

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    Fujitora was fucking around, it means nothing. It's just like pre-TS Luffy's ragdolling Aokiji with a kick.

    Carrot, and then Hawkins showed him the real power.
     
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  13. Erkan12 OP and DB Expert

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    No doubt the inept Admiral was holding back but respect the wizard. :bury
     
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  14. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    Fujitora called Zoro's air slash ferocious. No amount of headcanon about messing around or whatever will change that
     
  15. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    you posted the only panels that were negative on Zoro's part lol
     
  16. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    classic tier specialist erkan.

    The cropping tool must be your favorite app. :hestonpls
     
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  17. Gledania Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

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    Wut ??? Kaku was way more intimidating....




    And then ????




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    :hestonpls:hestonpls:hestonpls

    Btw ... Is he trying to downplay an admiral , Zoro , or both ??? I'm not even sure what the message behind it ? Hawkins > Zoro ? Hawkins > Fuji ???
     
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  18. Mr. Good vibes ZZZZZ

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    Nerdkan up to his usual shenanigans i see. :tupac
     
  19. Cardboard Jewsuke Draffut

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    Fuji > Hawkins > Zoro
     
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  20. Gledania Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

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    Nah Fuji>Zoro>Bepo>Hawkins.
     
  21. Erkan12 OP and DB Expert

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