The main reason I came to this site (though by far, not the only one) is because the art section seemed like a really cool place. I'm a crap artist, as the thread title suggests- I've been trying to learn how to draw for a while and always end up giving up then trying again a few months down the line. Its just depressing seeing the stuff that ends up on paper, and thinking of the original idea that was in my head, or looking at the picture on screen I was basing it on. It sucks. I want to become a good artist, and I know that it'll require a lot of work, and long and short of it I was wondering if anyone had any advice on good methods to learn by, or ideas on how to stay motivated, stuff like that. If neccessary I can scan in a not-quite-as-crap-as-most drawing I've done to prove my suckiness, without doing *too* much damage to peoples eyes in the process. Doesnt help that my current gf and previous gf were both qualified artists, and yet the most advice I got was "start with the general shape, then add in details. and practice a lot." *le sigh* So, yeah. Help/advice/opinions/ideas anyone?