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Hiashi vs Mei

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Hina uzumaki, Dec 2, 2019.

  1. Hina uzumaki

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    Location:- valley of the end
    Knowledge :- manga
    Mindset:- ic with killing intent
    Distance :- 50 meters
    Restriction:- None
     
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    Oooooh, tough

    Back to back Air Palms do major damage, but water seems specially suited to walling blunt force.

    I'll give it to Hiashi since he'll win the attrition game
     
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    Hiashi gets either ragdolled by her Suiton and killed eventually or he gets melted by her Futton and Yoton
     
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    Hiashi is not kage level nor does his skill set carry him enough to beat actual kage’s. Best kage level he can beat is Hidan and that’s about it
     
  5. Hina uzumaki

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    With?

    >Rotation megs her Suiton and yoton
    >The wind generated from rotation should neg Futon but in case it doesn't, Vacuum wall palm does the trick.
     
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    Boil Release and or Lava Release. What type of question is that? It seems like you don't even know who Mei is.
     
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    Is anything the matter?

    Okay, what will mei use to beat Hiashi?
     
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    @Hina uzumaki I have another question for you. What exactly is the point of making vs battle threads in this section if you already beleive you know the outcome?
     
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    Could you explain how she stomps?
     
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    OT: Mei is a Kage Level Shinobi w/ Powerful Kekkai Genkai/Mora. She has a variety of skill in ninjutsu and has decent feats in the manga such as taking on Madara's clones along with the 4 Kage and Pressuring MS Saskue and melting his susanoo defense.

    Hiashi isn't even able to stand his own against P1 Kakashi feat wise. I'l never understand why these matchups keep getting made.
     
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  11. Hina uzumaki

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    I only have my hypothesis on who wins. Posting vs threads is to see if I alone swim in my delusion or people actually agree with me. Its also to see if someone makes a good point as to why the lesser favorable combatant defeats the "stronger combatant".

    It is simply to place the ability of characterA and see how it matches up against character B.
     
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    Mei is the stronger combatant as said by 4 people not including me.
     
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    Are you judging based on feats and potrayal GG or how their abilities matchup against each other?

    It does not matter because clearly they are judging based on feats and portrayal alone and not considering how their abilities stack against each other.
    If you don't mind, could you explain how mei beats hiashi?
     
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    Both.

    She is a kage and he is not.
    She has good feats and he does not.
    Kakashi was a candidate for Hokage as per Jirayia,Tsuande,and SHikimaru's Dad.

    Not Hiashi who's a member of the ''strongest clan in the leaf.'' and whom is a Hyuuga who're known for not just their physical prowess but known for being geniuses and prodigies.

    So you can't say ''Well he isn't well known and isn't intelligent which is why he wasn't a candidate.''

    She melts him with Lava Release.

    Ribcage Susanoo>>>>>>Hiashi's Rotation. Boil Release works too. Either or tbh.
     
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    Okay man
     
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    Feats and Portrayal is how you determine who wins. Special skillsets are rarely a factor,
     
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    Finally...
    Lava release can be countered with rotation.
    Boil release can be countered with rotation. Should rotation be unable to do it, hiashi can use vacuum wall palm to clear the mist.
     
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    Vaccum Palm isn't gonna clear a field of Acid Mist and Boil Release can't be countered with Rotation. There's nothing to sugest Roation will block Boil Release.

    Boil Release: Skilled Mist Technique (沸遁・巧霧の術, Futton: Kōmu no Jutsu)

    Heading: Without exception everything exposed to the boil vapor will melt.

    Classification: Ninjutsu/Kekkei Genkai
    Rank: No Rank
    Class: Offensive
    Range: Shot to Mid-Range
     
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    Hiashi can’t spin forever which means he can get overwhelmed by Suitons and Yoton and he can’t win only by spinning.

    Kaiten doesn’t generate wind to suggest it’ll blow Futton away also since Futton melts chakra that mean when it come in contact with Kaiten it’ll start melting it and destroying it.

    Air palms can push Futton but only for so long and only in one direction so it’s only a short term counter
     
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    Just so you'd know, the heading is hyperbolic. What it says is not necessarily true.
    >Hiashi's rotation can clear the mist if the wind from the rotation takes effect on mist before the mist can eat the chakra expelled from hiashi's body.(Note:- This only applies should Hiashi's rotation becapable if producing wind)

    >You are incorrect, mei's acid mist does not cover a large area given its range. Hiashi's vaccum wall palm is very much capable of clearing the mist because of the compressed chakra released on a wider scale.
     
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    :scust

    Ignoring Databooks,Feats,and Portrayal eh? Nothing left to discuss with you. Have a merry day!
     
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    Good point
    However, Hiashi's rotation also deflects attacks, once the attack is deflected, he can stop spinning so as to make his move on mei

    I'm not referring to air palms here,
    Im referring to vacuum wall palm which has a wider range than air palm. Hiashi does not need to continue to push the mist back, he can push it back once so as to counter the jutsu caster herself.

    How have I ignored databooks? I don't care about her feats and portrayal, hiashi is a whole different character with different moveset that counters her.

    :bookerskully I accept your concession.
     
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    Close match. Rotation should be strong enough to deflect mei's Yoton and Suiton while air palm should clear acidic mist and throw mei away at the same time. Repeated Air palm could seriously damage Mei. He can also attack her by rotating in close range. Using Air palms in CQC isn't wise as that would leave him open for her acid spits. Hiashi is definitely entry kage level or low kage level going by his WA feats. Deflecting Juubi's arm attack by raw power isn't something to take lightly. That arm is easily bigger than biju . That is definitely a kage level doing.
     
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    Absence of feats isn’t terrible if you have hype to back it up, but Hiashi literally has neither. His portrayal is that he is weaker then part one Kakashi, and there’s zero reason to assume he can see through the most Mei provides, nor can he stop the inevitable melting he gets. At absolute worse if we hand gift Hiashi the ability to stay alive, he ends up getting outlasted.
     
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    Mei pops acid mist and the entire Hyuuga clan dies

    Depending on her range, thats not entirely a joke either

    Hiashi is fucked to say the least
     
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    Lol, the same old 'Muh, kaege lvl" shit again

    Kaiten negs lava and only acid spam can defeat him

    otherwise he chases her down and takes her lunch money
     
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    Mei can use a barrage of attacks with her Yoton and Suitons quickly so if Hiashi goes to use Kaiten to deflect an attack and thus at a standstill, as soon as he stops spinning she can quickly attack him again thus preventing him from making a move on Mei. Hiashi would be on defense and pressured the majority of the fight.




    I know what you was referring to but I was on my phone and it's faster to type air palms instead of vacuum wall palm on a phone but the point still stands. Futton isn't like an arrow or a kunai being thrown at him, it's something that would surround him so if he goes to use it, he'll only get part of the mist which means that Futton can still close in on him to get him and the while Mei can simply dodge the attack while spitting out more mist
     
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    Hiashi low diff. He already oneshotted shinobi leader from cloud so.

    Not to mention that her acid mist will be countered by passive chakra emission from his body and he can literally turn her into blood mist with a single airpalm.

    Juuken is most broken and complete fighting style in narutoverse its just not flashy and they did not get much panel time because Kishi did not give a fuck after immortals arc.
     
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    Tbh I did not see anything from Hiashi that puts him at Kage candidate level like Kakashi.

    Much less being fully worth of one.

    He is a top jounin level. Slightly below or equal to Asuma.

    Not so bad but I do not see him lasting nowhere near as long against Madara as Mei did.
     
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    Bad match-up unless Hiashi's Rotation can draw and direct the mist upwards.
     
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