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Hitsugaya vs Hiei

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by WorldsStrongest, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. WorldsStrongest Wick Dizard

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    Cuz Im SURE Im super original and this hasnt been done before :maybe

    The "hot" shorty vs The "cool" shorty

    No restrictions unless otherwise stated

    Round 1

    EOS versions

    Round 2

    Chapter Black Hiei vs FKT Hitsugaya

    Round 3

    DT Hiei (Bui Fight, No Dragon Absorption) vs SS Hitsugaya (No Bankai)
     
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  2. Voyeur Well-Known Member

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    Round 1 goes to Hiei.
    Round 2 varies if it's beginning of chapter black or end of chapter black. Gonna give it to Hiei probs.

    Round 3 Hitsu takes it round 3 doe.
     
  3. OneSimpleAnime King of Kaiju

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    Nah Hiei should take 1 and 3, 2 is a toss up but if its end of CB Hiei stomps
     
  4. Sablés Well-Known Member

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    Hitsugaya has a hefty speed advantage over Hiei in round one unless DT saga characters got boosted.

    I'm wondering if Hitsugaya could take round 1 since I found something definitive (or as it's ever going to get) about Seireitei's size that puts the current scaling into question, for better or worse.
     
  5. OneSimpleAnime King of Kaiju

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    R1 is EoS, which Hiei easily takes. DT Hiei is high end town level and SS characters without bankai are low end town level iirc
     
  6. Jackalinthebox Well-Known Member

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    How fast is SS arc Hitsugaya? DT Yusuke's cuffed Reigan was mach 150+
     
  7. Sablés Well-Known Member

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    Hitsugaya is maxh 250 or thereabouts. Both these values are above what I remember of DT. Hiei wins decisively then.
     
  8. OneSimpleAnime King of Kaiju

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    Chaos has been shooting out upgrades for shit left and right this last year
     
  9. Divell King of Trolls

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    What scaling is that?
     
  10. LazyWaka Bringer of Darkness Retired Staff

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  11. Divell King of Trolls

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    Meh. At this point i'm just curious.
     
  12. Sablés Well-Known Member

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    True :nonon

    Found an excerpt from one of the novels to check/properly read for myself. As I understand it, some werewolves from Komamrura's clan snuck into Seireitei, and from Omaeda's shop to the 7th division - both sides on undisclosed parts of the city - it took them 3 nights worth of trekking through mountainous regions inside the city.

    In other words, this isn't a claim or interpretation of Seireitei's size like Yoruichi's, it's an established distance that would make Seireitei at least well into the high double digit or triple digits worth of kilometers, even on the assumption that the shop and 7th squad barracks were on the far ends of Seireitei.

    Makes the 10 day statement not so outlandish :nonon
     
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  13. egressmadara Wanderin' About

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    Yes this is true. It is from which was supervised by Kubo. It took the wolves ~36 hours to navigate through mountains and forests within Seireitei before arriving at 7th division barracks.
     
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    You know why is Yoruicichi's statement about Seireitei size not accepted i mean Ichigo and the other had strict time limit to rescue Rukia and Yoruichi stated to going to another gate would put that time limit in jeopardy of running out unless people think that Yoruichi is lobotomized retard for that statement
     
  15. OneSimpleAnime King of Kaiju

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    Because they ran around the inside of Seireitei covering huge distances in short amounts of time.
     
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    Round 1:
    Toshiro stalls Hiei with far superior speed until his Bankai reaches full maturity and proceeds to turn him into ice.

    Round 2:
    Hiei onshots the moment he lands a hit.

    Round 3:
    They're close in regards to AP but Hiei should edge him out, leaning towards Toshiro due to his speed advantage though.
     
  17. OneSimpleAnime King of Kaiju

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    Uh Hiei in round 1 can casually oneshot guys that can destroy countries, Hitsu cant do shit
     
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    And Shikai Zaraki could barely nick God Size Gerard's Hoffnung while Toshiro can casually slice in half Volstandig Gerard's Hoffnung. This same Shikai casually obliterated Gremmy's meteor, (which should be far above Island level but whatever) and Volstandig Gerard cleaved through Bankai Zaraki like butter.

    Toshiro can also nullify Hiei's powers and functions via flash freezing, which only requires Toshiro to raise his arm. I still favour Toshiro in round 1.
     
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    Gerard never did anything to bankai Kenny till after his body started falling apart from his own power. Still doesnt put any of them past island level so lol at Hiei not just vaping them with his aura alone

    Fuck A class demons are country level and even low S class demons treat A class like fodder
     
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    Kinda retarded considering they landed near the middle of the seireitei's radius. And they are all superhuman. And none really made it.
     
  21. Dr. White I'm a shapeshifter, at Poe's masquerade.

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    Wha? You're assuming that them niggas are moving at a constant speed at a steadty time, for what reason?
     
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    Still, I would argue that his durability would remain relatively the same. That's on the basis of assuming Gremmy's meteor, which they scale far above is only Island level, when it is honestly much higher. In any case, I'll stop here.

    But when did Hiei vaporise anyone with his aura?
     
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    Hiei has also shown resistance to Ice based powers in the Saint Beasts arc due to his heat

    And Hitsus powers have shown a weakness to heat against Yamas RJ

    The feats are worlds apart obviously given how strong Yama is and how weak Hiei was in that arc, but just food for thought.

    Hiei is much stronger now
     
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    If your body is literally ripping itself apart from strain, youre not gonna be as durable as you normally are lol

    We saw B class tuguro melting C class demons. Theres no reason to assume a high S class like Hiei couldnt do the same to an A class demon when Sensui’s aura casually blocked Hiei’s DotDF and could blow him, Kuwabara, and Kurama away, and Sensui was in the garbage bin for S class
     
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    I think he means when he stopped Bui's giant axe and vaporised the thing like nothing.
     
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    And yeah, EoS YYH is country level, possibly entering continent level seeing how Koenma's father is country level himself and he is only an A class deity.
     
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    because there's no reason to assume otherwise? They're in there to get in and out without attracting attention, and only moving at night - which more than covers any rest arguments. Ordinary humans are known to traverse several dozen miles at a steady pace in one day, including breaks, not to speak of biologically enhanced ones.
     
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    Hiei wins before Hitsu can mature. If he lets it happen Hitsu might have a chance.
    SS version can use his AoE attack though to win
     
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    Why not use the 3 day statement to calc the size? I would be down with that.
     
  30. Dr. White I'm a shapeshifter, at Poe's masquerade.

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    What is the basis for justifying your assumption? What made it so they had to be travelling at a constant speed at all times?

    Them being superhuman doesn't mean anything, they are still subject to fatigue especially if moving at superhuman speeds.

    This seems more like a calculated ambush, not some race against time, especially aince they can o ly travel at night.
     
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