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Hokage!!! Fools want it.

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives' started by slumpy, Nov 21, 2005.

  1. slumpy doesn't need a Custom title

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    It is a world of shinobis. remeber konoha is an organastion like oro said. Saratobi saw the village as his precious. But is stil is an organstion. Are the hokage's the fools? How live there one dreams? But on the side note are used as weapons fore the sake of the organastion? Remeber how everyone was shoked about the mist, exame (killing youre own clasmates). but what about the chuunin-exame. it is used as an anagram to war. And own clan members are picked by lotery to fight eachsother in a live or death match. (neji and hinata). What do you think do the elders have an more dictator way of looking at the villages and do see there shinobi's as tools
     
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  2. Leen Peacemaker

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    In the world we are living today, remember every countries is like an organization. Presidents saw the countries as their precious but still it is an organization. Are the presidents fool? How do they live their dreams? But on the side note presidents are used as means for the wellness of his people. Remember how everyone was shoked about the war against Iraq? But what about Olimpic (especially ancient)? It is used as an anagram to war. And own country people are picked by caslot to compete with each other in a win or be ashamed match. (Sparta vs Athens). What do u think do the UN have a more dictator way of looking at the countries and do they see soldiers as tools to demonstrate a country's strength?

    Is that what u are trying to say because I dont really understand what u are writing so I interpret it into my own language. Plus, your punctuation and inconsistency of capital letters make it even more difficult for me to understand. No offense please. :amuse
     
  3. slumpy doesn't need a Custom title

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    but u under stand, what i mean.

    And i know writing is't my greatest talent.
     
  4. ~ Masamune ~ Old Man Masa

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    Let me quote someone i hold dear:"We're not tools of the government or anyone else. Fighting was the only thing I was good at, but at least I always fought for what I believed in."
     
  5. Leen Peacemaker

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    People fight for what they believe in. Ninjas are meant to be tools. However, they can choose to be a good tool or just a fool.

    Those who stray from the path of justice have no courage but under the wing of a strong leader, cowardice cannot survive.
     
  6. Alia_Atreides Mew...

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    I guess Konoha is a village that tries a more human way... Their prime goal is to protect the village, and in Naruto, as in many situations in real life, you need soldiers and fighting to do it. Better not, but thats how it is. They do missions to get the money that makes the country a rich country - they have no one starving to death, and citzens seems to be quite happy. So, yes, missions are a priority, but theres another point of view, the one we see Kakashi teaching the kids, and that Obito and the Fourth tought him, and that Tsunade, Jiraiya, the Third, and many others belive: more important than the mission is your team mate. The most important thing in Konoha are people: its their way of the ninja.
     
  7. Keyser S?ze Formerly Midnight Joker

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    the shinobi's are tools but their purpose is to protect the village. konoha is more of a peaceful country, they fight wars to bring peace
     
  8. zounds-_ The real nine tails.

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    The only thing peace has to offer.... is war :/~~

    Hokage's are fools!
     
  9. Kyuubi Naruto Hounds of Justice

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    Yondaime and Sarutobi are not fools....:S
     
  10. shibigoku Master of the fist

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    I think that Konoha is a "soft" country, compared to the Sand, the Sound and the Mist.

    Kazekage tried to kill his own son, the Sand tried to control jinchurukis, the jutsus of Gaara, Temari and Kankuro are very cruel. Even Sasori shows that the sand is darker than the leaf, how do you come up with making puppets out of people?

    Oro uses the sound ninjas as bait and sacrifices, nothing more to say.

    The only thing I know about the Mist's ways is that exam where the genins killed each other. Zabuza and Kisame were produced from the Mist.

    Nothing in Konoha compares to that except from Oro's experiments and maybe Anbu root. The 1st, the 2nd, the 3rd, the 4th all died to protect konoha and every member of the leaf is precious to them, while the other countries show that their ninjas are considered as tools.
     
  11. HOKAGEKYZRE crazy as shit...

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    i dont think being polite and not trying to fuck over your neighbors means youre soft...or is it a flaw in any way...you just have to be that much more bad ass...to be able to take the sneak attacks and stuff and still be able to win regardless...i dont see how protecting your friends makes you a fool...its not a mistake to have friends...a river is just a river and a cliff is just a cliff but together there is a waterfall...that is the power of friendship...and konoha, to me, is like one of the only countries that try to use friendship and treaties in warfare...and at the same time if you invade em' gai'll dynamic entry your freakin face...
     
  12. Potentialflip One Last Stand

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    Konoha a "soft" country? Caring about your family to me does not make a person soft or a fool. I mean if one thinks that then I consider them a fool and soft.
     
  13. Sariachan shadowy_blue no neechan

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    If at one point of the story Kishimoto will tell us more about the relations between ninja villages and the several daimyo, and the type of missions ninja usually do, I think it would be really interesting. ^^
     
  14. Razgriez Banned

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    Well considering so far every hokage has died in battle other then the current one that is alive I think only a fool would want it.
     
  15. Sariachan shadowy_blue no neechan

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    Ninja are supposed to die fighting, and since everyone has to die in the end, it's better doing it whilr fighting for the people than they love, isn't it?
     
  16. AK47living Love.

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    When you say life-and-death battle between Neji and Hinata, Konoha isn't brutal because it wasn't life or death. The judges could stop it when they felt it was needed and people could resign.
     
  17. masta_phat Anbu specialist

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    konoha maybe peaceful but they aren't soft, they got some of the smartest and most talented ninjas around, if they were soft they would have like 2 ninjas protecting the village and they would've probalely been invaded and taken over already. They are caring not soft
     
  18. Gold Knight To The Rescue!

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    Well, politics are a nasty business both in the real world AND in the world of Naruto too, it seems.

    The average Kage is just like a world leader here - they tell their subordinates to kill somebody when it's necessary to protect the interests of their land. And they make super-weapons with the intention of building a powerful country, to out-do all others.

    Good Kages (ie. Sandaime, and I presume, Yondaime) are those who attempt to try to achieve more than that.

    Terrible Kages (ie. Gaara's father, probably) are those who do not even intend to protect their country or loved ones.

    But yes, it's terrible to be a Hokage and to have such heavy burdens and responsibilities.
     
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