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Hori is the worst author in terms of power hyping

Discussion in 'My Hero Academia' started by Linkmyboy72, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. Linkmyboy72 Well-Known Member

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    It's odd, that if you factor down to it. He really doesn't know how to establish a story narrative with a characters overall prowess, it's disgraceful. He lets underclassmen beat top tier villains, the school bully outperform the class ace and main character, and he evidently nerfs the most powerful and smartest students against opponents who don't matter in the long run. So all and all, I don't trust this man, if you're name isn't Deku or Bakugou or even Endeavor, you won't have a meaningful role to establish you're skills as above the standards of your prowess. Never mind the fact, two fucking characters stated Todoroki was the future and the pride of class 1a, same with characters like Momo who should be very very strong in combat prowess also.
     
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    Oh shit i see it's already started! The first thread! :mjlol
     
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    Don't know why, but I never had faith in Horikoshi when he decided to let Ochako take down Blood Girl and then have her beat Aizawa.
     
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    wonder who else you'll latch on to. Ida? his future seems bright :smoke
     
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    Why are we still lacking a "tumblr tier" rating now of all times?
     
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    Do you want Todoroki to be a gary stu who has no weaknesses? That's what it sounds like you want.

    Todoroki was stated by Aizawa to be bad at close range. He can be cut off before he's given enough time to form huge attacks. Rather than whine about the audience being shown what was already foreshadowed by Aizawa why not be happy with how much hype Todo got during the fight? All Might compared his maximum power flames to Endeavor. He still has the raw potential but it needs to be refined a lot more. You can't expect him to completely master his powers when he neglected his fire powers for YEARS.
     
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    Beating powerful villains only happened with Deku.

    Bakugou is supposed to be really good technically, it's his personality and attitude that need major growth.

    No idea what the "most powerful and smartest students against opponents who don't matter" is referring to, but maybe that's to show that these characters still need to grow, and also to save their time to shine against opponents that DO matter?

    Stop being a Salty Sam and let things ride out.
     
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    This man is complaining about Shoto. I used to really like Aizawa and look at where that's got me:gglife. Shoto fans are living life on easy mode by comparison:wow.
     
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    @Linkmyboy72 So after deku disappointed you you jumped on todoroki's dick with the quickness. Which character are you gonna dickride next? :mjlol
     
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    > @Linkmyboy72 threatening to quit this manga if Horikoshi fucks with Shouto one more time

    > Horikoshi:

     
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    Never said Shoto had to be one, but he was original hyped as one on paper and concept. Todoroki since the begining was constantly outperforming his classmates(ie liscenscing exam, he passes round one way faster than the others). It's like Hori forgot what he written for him as a consistant standard, he's shouldn't be the one who neglects his training or trying to perfect his quirk since he acknowledges wanted to work on it more after the Stain fight.

    1) Freezes and disables one of Bakugo's forearms during obstacle race, stopping him from using his quirk from that hand.

    2) Catches midoriya's foot with ice mid jump during their fight.

    3) Mid ricipero burst freezes Ilda's engines while being kicked.
    Should be impossible, since Todoroki's ice wall defense is fucking supposed to restrain pro heroes/villains. Bakugou when he broke through his first ice wall was immediately restraint for a second time allowing Shoto to think on his feet and actually outmanuver Bakugou for a while.
    Aizawa isn't anymore reliable as fucking Horikoshi about Shouto. Horikoshi stated that Shouto would defeat Bakugoi using his two powers but he was jobbed to the point he's has difficulty being a pro with both and being a brute force idiot in th ecurrent chapter, he once outsmarted Iida and fucking Deku in the festival, now he barely has any tatical forsight to fight Tetsu with his quirk or apparently expert combat + plus hybrid skills show from the festival.
    Who cares? If he's not really as powerful as Endeavor at this point, he's not even worth comparing towards since Deku using Full Cowl makes him arguably better than Toshinori with One for All.
    He doesn't need to job anymore. Basically. There was never a hinted indication Shouto couldn't control his fire side with deliberate difficulties or inhibited limits, Shoto along with Tsuyu was said have no major flaws in learning how to manipulate their quirk through training.
    Showing mastery over one side of your quirk perfectly =/= Being incompetant in being able to use you're fire side or at least adept. Theres nothing that shows that Shouto hasn't mastered his fire side as well as his ice side since Hori pretty much doesn't use him as much as Deku in training his quirk. Hori just doesn't know or has forgotten how to write Shouto as well as Deku.
     
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    Yeah, he's technically almost something Shouto was supposed to be, a perfect fighter, which is supposed to be the most important thing in a battle shonen. Shouto was hyped as the perfect student and above even Bakugou in mastering quirks indicatively, Todoroki just doesn't only rely on his quirk, he also has the reflexes and smarts to fight without his quirk as well(can catch up with Deku and Bakugou).

    The writting for him needing to master more of something he never needed to work hard extensively makes him a worf, Bakugou and Deku already surpass him in having absolute control of their quirk and fighting capabilites, but Shouto is only half that good and has a but ton of power, which is not accurate considering past battles. Yeah he still needs to adjust his quirk better and improve his attacks, all the characters do, but not to the same level were he's virtually Ochako.
     
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    Shoto wasn't even that far ahead of the best of his classmates (primarily Izuku and Bakugou) anyways so I'm not sure where this perfect fighter bullshit is coming from. Shit got disproved with his fight with Izuku, Bakugou and Stain.
     
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    He was depicted as perfect for roughly one and half arcs before it became cemented and VERY CLEAR that he still had a long way to go. He had raw potential and power, but had only relied on that. This was LITERALLY SOMETHING STAIN SAID as he went in for the kill and he had to get saved by both Iida and Deku. He got styled on by both Aizawa AND Stain consecutively, and then had trouble being able to fight against Moonfish, a convicted killer with tons of skill and experience, with his ice side being only enough to hold him back.

    They never said anything about him being a god at mastering his quirk, just that his quirk made him absurdly OP. But that's not enough in the MHA world, and it's been shown time and time and time again.

    Stop being willfully obtuse and pay attention to what is being put right in front of you on a silver platter.
     
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    Sailor Todoroki : soon :



    :bookerskully :bookerskully
     
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    What the fuck are you smoking?

    Goddammit, I was nodding in agreement at a few things you were saying, and then you went far left. :D:
     
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    Shouto is aboring and inflexible character to get invested in sincerely without his bombastic father enhancing his own side plot or basically his father being the only only saving grace he has due Enji being an awesomeness incarnate guy. But outside of that, what else does he have going for him as a character development other than how powerful he can get, which he still fails at that.

    Bakugou is literally better version of Shouto with more emotion, stakes and depth to his assholery. And the fact he doesn't lose is the foundation of his popularity of over Deku and Shouto.

    Honestly Bakugou is paired with more straight pairings than Todoroki, to do only has momo who is a loser like him and just as boring.
     
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    Todoroki doesn't have much interaction with girls besides Momo. My guess is Horikoshi wants Todoroki to stay with "The One".

    Meanwhile, Endeavor's all--
     
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    Lol What?

    Bakugo is nothing like Shoto and has a shitty background. He thought he was more special than everyone else but gets butthurt when proven otherwise. He was crying when when Deku beat him in the Hero/villain scenario in the beginning of the manga.

    All Bakugo does is rage over things and think he is better than everyone. His "character development " will be learning to play well with others lol something you should have learned by preschool.


    Momo is one of the hottest females in the story. Shoto being paired with her is definitely not a negative thing. I haven't seen Bakugo show interest in anyone but himself and Deku.
     
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    Sorry, couldn't resist :skully
     
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    I'm no Todoroki sucker, but yeah, making Todoroki look like that much of a chump in that fight was pretty bad considering his hype. Tetsutetsu should've been target practice for Todoroki. Spam from afar, while changing between ice and fire. Tetsutetsu would get his ass violently expanded, literally. Dealing with Pony and Simon wannabe is also pretty easy, just go all ice out on them.

    Then gang up on Honenuki if he's that big of a deal.
     
  26. xenos5 Objectionable Objection

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    Nah. Tetsutetsu said it himself. He trained himself by living in a hearth. He was bathed in flames. It's not gonna be that easy to defeat a guy who's trained his body that he can turn into metal to begin with to be resistant to extreme temperatures.

    If Tetsutetsu hadn't grown at all since the sports festival maybe you'd have a point but he trained himself in a way that helps him against Todoroki. Characters can train themselves to rise above the ranking they had previously.

    Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard is a phrase that applies here very well. Todoroki had to train his fire for a very long time just to get his level of control with it closer to how well he controls his ice (due to neglecting using fire for such a long time). He didn't push his limits and try to train his absolute maximum fire. Him not being able to control his absolute maximum fire very well makes sense considering that.
     
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    He could still use that ice formation like against Seto, but with Tetsutetsu in the middle .
     
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    toga was toying with them. Ochako landed one good move then toga stabbed her, stole her blood then peaced out
     
  29. xenos5 Objectionable Objection

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    Eh. It’s easier to do that when the opponent’s starting distance is a good amount away from you. But if the structure can be punched through before it gets too large the opponent can prevent it from fully forming.

    Tetsu showed he couldn’t be easily frozen either during the fight as Todo spammed his ice quite a bit before using fire.
     
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    Let's not conflate adversarial interest with romantic interest (you'd be wrong anyway, since Bakugou took interest in Ochako). In the romantic sense, Todoroki hasn't shown interest in anyone either. Neither has Deku.

    Touché, but we can take that even further...




    :catskully

    My question is, why'd Tetsutetsu train to specifically counter Todoroki? I never understood that.
     
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