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How are the Charlotte’s the strongest family?

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by xmysticgohanx, Sep 15, 2018.

  1. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    The ace novel said that iirc. But looking at it, how can they be stronger than the Monkey family?

    Big Mom vs Dragon/Garp
    Katakuri vs Luffy
    Cracker & Smoothie vs Garp/Dragon

    Kata and Luffy cancel each other out. Regardless of what you think of Big Mom vs her opponent, how would Cracker and Smoothie beat someone like Garp? The rest of Meme’s family would be irrelevant, especially since at least 2 of the Monkeys have CoC.

    I can only see it working if it’s pre-WCI Luffy.
     
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  2. Shiba D. Inu #admiralgang

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    the Monkey family dont live and fight together like the Linlin's /thread

    and the rest of her family isnt completely irrelevant (nor would Color of Fodder Control KO the likes of Snack, Pedopedo, Daifuku, Oven etc.)
     
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    Do you think Garp, Dragon, and Luffy can take BM’s entire family?
     
  4. Mysticreader Well-Known Member

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    For one, the Monkeys' aren't a part of organized crime which I think the "family" is alluding to, especially if you consider that Big Mom pirates are heavily involved in the underworld and even in the WCI arc, her top guests were the leaders of the underworld.

    On a more traditional family meaning, she does have a, and quite possibly the, largest number of actual blood related members in her crew and while most are not going to be a threat to top tiers, in general they are still either above or comparable to most pirate crews out there. It is telling that Big Mom doesn't seem to have as many notable pirate allies in the same fashion as Whitebeard did whereby I believe her non Top YC children are filling that role ( veteran NW pirate captains ) instead.

    As for CoC, BM's children, specifically those present at the wedding, should be able to resist it considering they did so with difficulty from BM's cry. Ultimately, it would come down to numbers and the Charlottes would probably win by attrition, hence the strongest family.
     
  5. Shrike Let's Baby

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    Because they are numerous and nobody is looking through the tier glass.
     
  6. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    those can all get one shot by kata level fighters.
     
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    only by Kong Gun+ level attacks tho I think .. or maybe even 1 Kong Gun isnt enough for Snack/Oven
     
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    anyway if Dragon is yonkou level and this was Prime Garp then they could maybe beat BM + her kids ? may require having post-Wano Luffy even then :hmm

    if its MF/post-skip Garp and only current Luffy, then I dont see it
     
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    We saw how Luffy was critically hit as soon as one of Katakuri's siblings joined in their fight.

    That would happen to everyone in your scenarios. Everyone gets ganked.
     
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  10. Gohara Ryutoshi

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    I doubt that any character can best almost an entire yonkou crew combined. :p
     
  11. hehey a synonym for greatness

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    Snack shouldn't be far enough from Katakuri to be one shotted considering he too was a sweet commander until fairly recently...
     
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    Holy crap can you guys not reference the novel?

    Its the farthest you can get from canon material to rely on.
     
  13. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    I think the key word here is "family".

    This includes big mom as well.

    Neither Garp and dragon can solo the entire family especially with all those various DF users and basically endless combinations of attack patterns.

    They aren't as one dimensional as the WB pirates in fact they are the complete opposite cracker alone can span an army.

    You saw what the weaker trio were able to accomplish with team work against big mom.
     
  14. Dunno Well-Known Member

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    It's most likely because Dragon, Garp and Luffy aren't a family. They are family, but they are not a family. Otherwise, they would wreck, supposing that Dragon has some kind of decent AoE ability.
     
  15. Bernkastel Welcome child of man

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    I think this thread should have ended here :blobcoffee
     
  16. charles101 Well-Known Member

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    Even weaklings in BM crew have some haxx powers. Like Brulee who equally matched Luffy and gained ability to fly from Caesar. Or Bobbins (isn't he dead though?) with his hipnotic powers and Mont d'Or and his World of Books. Any cheap shot from their side may be crucial in this battle. They'd be irrelevant in fair fight, but in this scenario they're just support/distraction.
     
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    I honestly think the meaning of "family" in this case scenario is akin to a crime syndicate "family". Like the ones in NYC.
     
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    If you took those three and pit them against Big Mom's crew they'd probably win, One Child Policy regardless. But they're all of different factions whereas as Big Mom's crew is a singular, if unstable, unit, so the point is moot.
     
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    how are they not. Do you even see how the whole team ganged up on Luffy
    Almost every single major son or daughter of Big Mom has a crazy Devil Fruit Power that if use as a team can definitely beat Luffy, Garp and Dragon
    1) Big Mom herself can control soul which give her an ultimate army and element as Logia
    2) Perospero controls candy that can make wall of defense or super sticky candy that prevent you from moving
    3) Katakuri, we're all know how strong he is
    4) Cracker with his Haki and ultimate Army of cracker
    5) Smoothie who can juice you out
    6) Brulee with the mirror world who can move and shift her whole team around
    7) Daifuku with an overpower Genie
    8) Oven who can control heat
    9) Mont D'or has the power to put you in the World of Book which can set you up for some sneak attack from his family
    10) Galette with the syrup power
    11) Pudding can play innocent and cut off your memory about your family
    and a bunch of other capable fighters in her family
    If they aren't the strongest bloodline !
     
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