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How could chiyo seal ichibi into gaara?

Discussion in 'Konoha TV' started by Milo-, Jun 9, 2007.

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  1. Milo- Konoha blue

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    So yeah, this is bothering me a lot, how could chiyo seal the Ichibi into Gaara without dying? =\ plot hole? filler? you know, if this isn't a terrible plot hole, it could make the retarded theory about the 4th Hokage being the AL possible :p
     
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    uh...she used a different technique....:oh

    The one yondaime used was a direct deal with the death god, which according to sandaime, he had developed himself....who knows about the one chiyo performed.

    It also explains why Naruto and Kyuubi's chakra are able to mix while whatever technique that was performed on gaara caused his personality to be eaten by the shukaku if he were to go asleep
     
  3. Milo- Konoha blue

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    Sounds like plot no jutsu so gaara could have racoon's eyes :p

    Anyway, that means the mighty 4th hokage died for his lack of abilities to make non-suicidal jutsus XD
     
  4. Continuity .

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    Yondaime was trying to seal away an extremely powerful rampaging demon with his own technique, and he decided to put it in Naruto.

    Chiyo transferred Shukaku from a tea kettle into Gaara. :wink There's a huge difference here.
     
  5. K-weave ^-^

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    Continuity and "Near" are right. There was a major difference in sealing styles.

    Shukaku was already sealed and is supposed to be the least powerful (apparantly)
    Kyuubi wasn't sealed and was also in the middle of royally wrecking the place plus being the most powerful doesn't help much either.

    Different seals were required, thus, different side effects.
     
  6. Oneiricer Member

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    Would it be possible that the third kazekage was the one who sealed shukaku into the tea pot? This will also explain how he died mysteriously, and follow in line with the fact that someone must die to seal a tailed demon.
     
  7. Yagami1211 City Hunter

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    The thing is that Shukaku is NOT sealed in any way.
    It wasn't a Sealing Technique, but merely a Technique where a demon can inhabit a Human Body.
    Shukaku can take over Gaara's body when he sleeps, different from Kyubi obviously.
     
  8. Even [Taka] Translator

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    also, Kyuubi > Shukaku

    Shukaku is the weakest of the tailed demons, and Kyuubi's the strongest one...
     
  9. Continuity .

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    Just to clear something up here:

    1. The person sealing a Bijuu into another doesn't necessarily die. Only Yondaime did because of his specific technique.

    2. However, if you remove a Bijuu from a person that person will die (like Gaara).

    Maybe something in there had you confused?
     
  10. CM Pope The Holy Father

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    Can't you tell it was a completely different method of sealing?

    Kyuubi goes in Naruto's stomach, gets the spiral seal but his Chakra can leak out and he can only talk to Naruto if Naruto goes to him.

    Shukaku goes inside Gaara's body, his voice can speak to Gaara at any time, his power manifests as the sand shield.

    Shukaku has had more hosts than Kyuubi who's only had one and Chiyo performed all of them. Kyuubi could only manifest his power as the tails once the seal weakened but Shukaku was able to do it anytime (Gaara has never shown difficulty).

    Different - probably weaker - method of sealing.

    And as for slagging off Yondaime for not being able to seal Kyuubi without dying - it's the most powerful Bijuu, it it could be sealed any other way don't you think it sort of would have been done before it went on a rampage?
     
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    or using a jutsu that actually isn't as harmful to the jinchuuriki...considering naruto can sleep without having the kyuubi eating away at his personality.

    Two different mind sets too....The fourth sealed Kyuubi into Naruto so that:
    A) the village could be safe
    B) the villagers could see naruto as a hero

    Chiyo sealed shukaku into gaara for the sole purpose of protection of Suna...nothing to do with Gaara at all considering they've done it two other times.
     
  12. Uchiha Q 1718

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    Spoiler:
    that only means that the 4th mite be still alive wich helps in the theory of AKATSUKI LEADER
     
  13. Zelmer Member

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    Says who? Link to manga page please.
     
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    the strenght of a bijuu is demonstrated by their number of tails...

    1 tail < 9 tails
     
  15. Uchiha Q 1718

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    Paul is right , i think Granny-chiyo said it in ep 15 14 , right befour they rest
     
  16. drakt Correcting error.

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    if you watch a few episodes ago, chiyo says that the way to seal a bijuu is to match its power (if only for a short time) but bijuus have/are a stupid amount of chakra.

    this is why it takes 9 akatsuki members 3 days and nights constantly giving chakra just to build up enough chakra to match the bijuu and seal it in the statue, also this is how yondaime sealed the kyuubi, except he gave his life (which is the ultimate sacrafice etc etc) in order to seal it.

    now this means chiyo either got a bunch of people to gather chakra at some kind of focal point (eg the statue) or someone died to seal the ichibi. can you think of anyone who died around that time? thats right, gaaras mother. If i remember correctly she died during childbirth. i think sunagakure sacarificed her life to seal the ichibi. assholes.
     
  17. Ulio True Shinobi's never give up.

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    I dont know if Chiyo has such ability but i do think it akatsuki leader may be able to perform such things.
     
  18. Uchiha Amik Don't Spoil Me...I'll Kill You

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    there is more than one way to seal a bijuu

    the 4th could have not died when sealing Kyubii... but under the circumstances... he had no time to prepare an elaborate sealing jutsu. Kyubii was right there ready to destroy all of Konoha in a few second. so he used the fastest method he had... and that was sacrificing himself to the death god. he had no other choice but that jutsu... im sure he would have used a different one if he had time to prepare and consider other alternatives. and hell, who knows.... maybe he tried the death god jutsu only hoping it was going to work.
     
  19. Lycanthropy This Battle Will Be Won ♥

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    Wasn't Gaara's mother sacrificed to seal the ichibi in or something?
     
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    Chiyo revealing that she sealed the Bijuu inside Gaara lets the viewers know how good of a Shinobi she is. Someone not to mess around with.
     
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    not entirely true
    Kyuubi may be the strongest, but Shukaku isn't the weakest
     
  22. Uchiha Q 1718

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    All of the bijuu's are unique in there own way , one has sand the other fire the other water..etc

    So its like ermm 5tailed > kyuubi > shukaku > 5 tailed , but with 9 monsters, but power my number of tailes may be true. maybe its just the ammount of chakra.
     
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    Yeah. I remember that. Wasn't this the case?
    Even if it's not, most likely, Chiyo's and the 4th's jutsu's are probably different.
     
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    maybe Chiyo gather Chakra till she had so a big reserve ,that she sealed the Shukaku without dying
     
  25. Aman <font color='#0000A0'>Really?</font>

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    Gaara's mother was sacrificed for the technique.
     
  26. chibbselect Well-Known Member

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    I'm convinced it's a different sealing technique.

    Whether Gaara's mom died because the sealing technique that Chiyo used, like Yondaime's, required the sacrifice of a human life in order to work, or if her death was just an inconvient consequence of giving birth to a child with a demon bound to it is debatable...all Gaara said about it was, "I took the life of the woman who was called my mother when I was born."

    But a big difference between the two techniques was that Shukaku was sealed into Gaara in utero, (Shikamaru noted this in ep 58, "must be a technique to seal a soul before birth.") while I think they said the Kyuubi was sealed into Naruto right after he was born.
     
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  27. Itachi133ui PEIN TARD

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    It can be true, but may be she knows another technique.
     
  28. -Orochimaru-sama- www.gaiaonline/p/rybreadorly

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    Thats what I think. It makes the most sense. Im pretty sure they said she was sacrificed for the protection of the Village...
     
  29. Delta Shell The Pose of Love, people..

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    Yeah, obviously Chiyo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yondaime.
     
  30. Tsukiyomi Crazy Cyborg Monkey

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    Shukaku was already sealed, its much easier to transfer a demon thats already sealed then to seal one thats free.
     
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