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How long before Zoro gets revealed to have Coc?

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by maupp, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. maupp Faster than my Shadow

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    At this point it's just a matter of time. Oda has left way too many clues and foreshadowing for it not to happen, and he's been relentless espcially in wano with the clues.

    The panels of Luffy and Zoro clearly indicate release of aura(the sound bubbles make that obvious) and it's not just mere stare to make for cool panels.

    I had my doubts but by this points it's clear that Oda is going for that direction. It might not be Coc(though I'm banking on it) but I'm sure it'll still be something similar to it. Either way it'll be about some sort of aura etc with similar working to Coc.

    So how long before Oda reveals and confirms it. I for one am sure it'll happen in this Wano arc, but when?
     
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    when he fought King their fight will going to be Zoro Vs Mr. 1 version 2. Just you wait.
     
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    Hopefully, never.
     
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  4. maupp Faster than my Shadow

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    It's happening, make piece with it
     
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    It looked it like the panels were illustrating speed tbh.
     
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  7. HaxHax  Galatians 4:16

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    The reveal wouldn't surprise me at this point. But the question we're all asking is, what does it do? What the fuck does CoC do?
     
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    2 cotc users just combined their cotc and damages a lion from distance and saving the little girl.

    If their cotc wansnt the reason he got damaged. It still froze and fuckdd Holden mentally. You can clearly see it
     
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    When Luffy revealed his CoC, he stunned two opponents who threatened to kill his friend, as well as a bunch of onlookers. It was also a signal to their superior to stop underestimating him. If Zoro's going to have his own CoC reveal moment, it deserves to be as good as Luffy's. Better later than sooner, I think.
     
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    What is the exact mechanic of CoC? Just seems like an inevitable plot armor technique and I honestly just don't think it's necessary for this story.
     
  12. Edward Teach Well-Known Member

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    You would say the same thing about coa and coo if they weren't revealed yet to be able to do what they do
     
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    Well, in all fairness, I've previously said that CoA and CoO were executed very poorly as haki concepts, before they were retconned/reconfigured/readjusted later in the story.

    CoC is so broad, has so much room for speculation and interpretation that I'll be surprised if we get an explanation we'll be happy with, especially after what we saw with pre-TS and post-TS CoA.
     
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    This wasn't a CoC feat it was a speedblitz feat.
     
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    lol no
     
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    We see the panel of Luffy just blitzing him Zoro blitzing.

    Zoro even said thats what they were going to do.

    Plus the panels were drawn in Odas speed type panels not CoC type panels.
     
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    What. We literally see them staring at holdem with both of them having crossed arm, and at the same freaking moment something happens to holdem, he literally freezes and have question marks all over for not understanding what's happening to him.

    Oda wouldn't draw luffy and zoro just like that in cool panels just to blitz some fodders when 2 chapters ago we saw zoro blitz a freaking supernova. wake up people lol
     
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    The symbols used in the luffy zoro panel is literally the same symbols used when luffy knocked them people at the entrance of the town lol. just in different orders.
     
  19. Aduro Definitely not a villain.

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    Zoro is a follower, who is reluctant to join with or take responsibility for other people. He's not a king or a leader. Thematically he shouldn't have CoC. If Zoro gets CoC it'll be an asinine attempt to pander to the fans.


    Frankly i'm not fond of Haki in general.
    • Kenbushoku works as a villain power. Its frustrating for readers to see Luffy struggle to land a hit on Enel or Dogtooth, and I can see how it was cathartic when he actually managed it. But having the heroes get a special sense that they're in danger just reduces the tension, which isn't what you want in an adventure manga.
    • Busoshoku Haki looks cool. But OP characters were already super strong and durable. The could just keep having characters like Zoro and Sanji get stronger because they trained a lot. Worst of all it stops Oda having to find creative solutions to Logia weaknesses. I actually liked seeing Luffy prep for his fight with Crocodile by gathering water, and it would be fun to people him try to find similar solutions to other opponents. But now they just need Haki instead. Boring.
    • Haoshoku Haki ill-defined short-hand designed to tell us that a character is destined to be some kind of special leader, without actually having them show the skills and talents needed.
     
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  20. Edward Teach Well-Known Member

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    Zoro is not a follower. the fact that you think he is enough proof that you don't know his character at all. Zoro only follows Luffy, that speaks volumes of Luffy's character and how he is able to attract someone like Zoro, not a negative dot on Zoro's part.

    and rayleigh says hi
     
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  21. Gledania Yeah but no.

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    Wether he got it or not I don't care. Still badass til the end.
     
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    What about Rayleigh??

    Zoro has nothing in common with Rayleigh. He's the Lucky Roo of the SHs.
     
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  23. FitzChivalry Person of Internet

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    He fucking has it. Ever since the Punk Hazard arc or maybe even before, I've been convinced. I know it's supposed to be a "one-in-a-million" rare occurrence and all, but Zoro checks all the boxes of every character we've seen in One Piece with it, and there's already precedent of at least one crew having multiple CoC users, which was Roger's crew, which had three (Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks). Zoro is subordinate to Luffy, but is often portrayed to be Luffy's equal, and his strength and disposition is such that he's even been mistaken for the captain a time or two. He has it, and in time we'll get that confirmation.
     
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  25. Aduro Definitely not a villain.

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    I'm not saying that Zoro is easily led, or that he has a lack of daring or willpower. But I'm saying that Zoro was never interested in gathering others to follow him. He's antisocial. Luffy can annoy people, but he also wins friends easily. Zoro doesn't really have that charisma to gather others to his cause.

    Also, Zoro has a big dream to become the world's strongest, but never really had much vision other than that. Mihawk is known as the World's Strongest Swordsman, but he hasn't shown CoC. And frankly doesn't seem to be influencing world events much. He doesn't appear to have a crew or ship or even a flag.

    Zoro doesn't make big decisions for his crew, just tries to facilitate Luffy's dream while getting stronger. Since he met Luffy, Zoro has achieved a lot of things. But only really in Luffy's slipstream. Luffy declares with not hesitation that he'll go on adventures and takes on tyrants and challenges the views of world leaders, while he's doing that Zoro will generally beat up someone near the top of that villain's pecking order.

    Also, Rayleigh wasn't Roger's "swordsman", he was his "first mate". Regardless of what some fans believe, Zoro is not the Straw Hats' First mate. Its likely that Rayleigh had the skills to lead if he wanted to, and stepped up when Roger couldn't. But the Strawhats have no real hierarchy besides Luffy being in charge and everyone else dealing with that. The Sunny and Merry never went to or avoided any place because Zoro wanted them to. Nobody joined the Strawhats because Zoro wanted them there.

    With the possible exception of Rayleigh. The other CoC members were all charismatic leaders who looked capable of changing the world. Not just by being strong, but by having vision and winning the hearts of others. Fleets will go into battle following Chinjao, WB and Luffy. Donflamingo was almost worshipped by many in Dressorosa. Shanks inspired Luffy to become a pirate in the first place, and Ace won friends almost everywhere he went. The Charlotte family idolises Katakuri, as the Amazons idolise Hancock and the WBs idolise WB.
    Zoro doesn't really fit in with them.
     
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  26. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    in his fight with King/Shogun/Kaido
     
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    I'm not saying Zoro doesn't have it. However that is a speed blitz panel. Everyone besidea you in the OL knows this. Its classic Oda.
     
  28. Gledania Yeah but no.

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    Both swordmen. Both joined the crew as first member. Both seen by others people as firstmate. Both seen scolding other crew mates.

    One is known as dark king and the other having a black sword from a swordman named king , both have scars in the eye....


    (Not saying it's prrof he is a firstmate. But there IS similarity)
     
  29. Edward Teach Well-Known Member

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    Nah lol

    Literally the Japanese scans have the exact same symbols as when Luffy used cotc last time
     
  30. maupp Faster than my Shadow

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    But Zoro didn't move at all. Also right after that they showed panel of Holdem freaking out. It's pretty clear to me that was a release of aura from Zoro and Luffy
     
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