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How Powerful Will Coby Be At the End of the Series?

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  1. DemonDragonJ bringer of light

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    Coby has demonstrated amazing growth potential, progressing from a weak cabin boy to a captain in the marines in a very short time due to training under Garp, so I am wondering how powerful he shall be at the end of the series.

    I personally predict that Coby shall be tied with Sabo at being only slightly below Luffy in terms of power, and possibly even be promoted to the rank of admiral. What does everyone else say about this? How powerful will Coby be by the end of the series?
     
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    EoS - Epilogue Coby will be an Admiral.
     
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    Maybe an admiral.

    Maybe he'll be dead. Dreams can die in this story too. Just look at Tashigi.
     
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  4. Samehadaman Well-Known Member

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    Probably Admiral, but to be honest his growth rate is and will be a bit retarded. He was literally a snotty non-fighter kid two years ago. Like, Luffy and Zoro were aiming to be fighters since they were born and can't even grow this fast.
    I'd prefer is he was just a very promising VA, more realistic without a timeskip.
     
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    Nah, Coby has a plot shield. He could be a fleet admiral. I mean the fleet admiral of new peaceful Marines that won't lick WG asses

    not because he is powerful but because of his sense of justice
     
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    Barring the possibility of DF acquisition, second TS the realist in me sees EOS Koby = Marco. Setting up the scenario in a flash foward epilogue where Prime Koby is a nominated and revered Admiral and new Hero of Marines. However, time is irrelevant in the presence of talent, exceptional tutelage and determination. IIRC Koby is what 16/17? Which means he is around the same age Shanks travelled the Grandline. Now that he owns his own ship and travels alone he is free to exposure of battles which will demand his growth via consistent training. Considering his starting base is Garp’s knowledge he’s ahead of the curve. We cannot expect Luffy [Rayleigh], Zoro [Mihawk] to have obtained spectacular bonuses and ignore Koby [Garp]. He learnt from the best in his field and all that’s left is for him to prove it to himself/OPverse. Under this line of thinking at worst EOS Koby = [Average] Color Trio and Prime Koby = Garp.
     
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    Promising VA ...... comparable to the likes of the C3 during their VA days.

    Epilogue will be when he finally fulfils his dream & ambition of becoming a full fledged Admiral.
     
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    Bringing up Luffy and Zoro doesn't support your point. For all intents and purposes their starting point wasn't far Coby's.
     
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    Yes it was, they were fighters before Coby showed up in the manga. Zoro was already a famous bounty hunter before the manga even began and he grew up in a dojo. Luffy had been keen on being a pirate and fighting his brothers since ever as a bit of a wildling in the middle of mountain bandits.
    Coby was a total civilian, zero physical activity, total nerd.
     
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    Not really. Luffy and Zoro have at least 7 years on Coby in terms of training. So his ability to play catch up is kinda ridiculous
     
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    Katakuri level. EoS admirals will be weak as fuck :)
     
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    The both of you are incorrect.

    Putting this in numerical terms:

    Start of the series
    Luffy - 10
    Zoro - 10
    Coby - 2

    Present

    Luffy - 90
    Zoro - 80
    Coby - 60

    The bottom line is the work Luffy and Zoro put in before meeting Coby didn't give them a significant head start. In the grand scheme of things, they were all ants.
     
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    So you agree? Coby from 2 to 60 and Zoro 10 to 80, meaning growth rate of 3000% for Coby and 800% for Zoro since start of series.
     
  14. DemonDragonJ bringer of light

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    Are you saying that Tashigi's dream has died?
     
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    He will be Admiral at the end of the series, but I dont see him catching up Luffy and Zoro, nor do I see him being as powerful as the other Admirals that have been shown, he will be Admiral by default after all the other ones have either been defeated or killed representing the new righteous vanguard of Marines that will takeover after the SH win against the WG/Marines in the final war.
     
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  16. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    Lets be honest here, we know the reason why Tashigi is now a mother. :catprone

    This is Oda after all.
     
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    hopefully he will be dead
     
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    If Luffy and Zoro in first arc are "10", then Coby is "0.043", not "2". He was so weak that fodders could easily fodderize him.
     
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    At the time of Final War(End of series) Coby should be strong Yonkou commander level.
    I think he would Dressrosa! Luffy level probably.
    Epilogue(which should happen about decade later) is where he would be an Admiral.
     
  20. DemonDragonJ bringer of light

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    When did Tashigi have children?
     
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  21. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    Shes basically a caretaker now, whether its for her own men or for the kids she decided to take care of on Punk Hazard.

    Even Nami noted that Tashigi is like Bell-mère, a strong mother.

    This is hardly the women who according to her own words will
    Tashigi: I swear... with Shigure at my side, I will work to improve my skills, and circle the world, retrieving all the meito from the hands of scum! Upon my life, the 12 Saijo-O-Wazamono , the 21 O-Wazamono, and the 50 Ryo-Wazamono will be returned to good use!"

    Basically her ambition seems to have been completely ignored over the course of the story, and I dont understand why other then Oda going for something else with her character.
     
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    Who knows what Oda has in store for the boy as some said he could be a prominent vice admiral or possibly just attaining the rank of admiral in the last few chapters. He could also pull a Garp and have admiral class strength, but prefers to stay a vice admiral admiral.
    The one thing I can tell you is he definitely has the fastest growth rate in the manga so far going from beyond fodder to what appears to be at least cp9 level of power in just 2 years.
     
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    During the final war -- Yonko Commander/First mate level.
    In Epilogue -- Admiral level.
     
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    The series will end with Pirate King Luffy, Revolutionary Commander Sabo, and Fleet Admiral Coby, at Ace's grave, having sake.
     
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    Even 0.043 is too generous. Hell even 0 would have been too much. He was literally nothing. The snot from his nose had more power than he himself.

    I understand the whole training under Garp thing, but the way Coby was virtually retconned into a little f*ck with enough talent to reach Super Saiyan 3 in 2 years or even less, does kinda shit on the whole timeskip training the Strawhats underwent and most people feel had underwhelming results. I mean our MC had his dear brother murdered in front of his eyes and his crew easily dismantled coupled with his life long goal to become the mightiest pirate ever, so Luffy should have the biggest resolve to train up and become strong. And then Coby almost casually 1UPS him it feels like. Hell, Coby should aim for f*cking Pirate King, might make for a more interesting adventure too -__-

    In all honesty I never really felt his "rivalry" with Luffy either. It's more like they're friends, but they're in opposing factions (North and South anyone?)

    But oh well. Too late in the game to hope for anything to throw a curveball. Maybe Blackbeard or Akainu using Coby as hostage or something to mess with Luffy, but perhaps that would undermine Coby's SSJ3 growth and make him once again a damsel in distress. Bleh.

    Hmmm, maybe the next chapter that comes out should do a timeskip to this scene right here and wrap up the series, so we can all move on with our lives the next shounen to dedicate 20 years to.
     
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    That is very similar to what happened with Gohan in Dragon Ball; after hundreds of chapters of him developing as a fighter, he abruptly stops fighting, for no explanation, at all; Toriyama doing so is not a major surprise, but I expected much more from an author of Oda's caliber.

    That would be very awesome, indeed.
     
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    You don't get it, Coby's Ambitions have evolved. He doesn't want to merely be an Admiral. He wants to be the one who catches the Pirate King.

    Greater Ambition = Greater Growth

    Coby will be no weaker than Admiral level by the end of the story
     
  29. Neo Arcadia puru puru

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    Not much can be learned by training with animals and fodder, no matter how many years are spent doing it.
    It built an excellent foundation, but it just doesn't have shit on learning rokushiki with a top tier.
     
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    Them ain't no mere animals lol. Luffy had to fight for his life on that island. That was no mere training, that was survival.

    As you can see Luffy is already teaching himself Rokushiki
     
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