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How strong is Hiryu Shoten Ha?

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome Archive' started by Hamaru, Oct 9, 2006.

  1. Hamaru Semi-Active

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    Just like it says. Ranma's Hiryu shoten ha is probley one of the strongest moves I've seen. What do you think?
     
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    The most terrible aspect of Hiryu Shoten Ha is that uses the energy or the heat produced by the opponent. So in theory Hiryu Shoten Ha haven't limits at all....it all depends in the fury and the power of the opponent.
     
  3. Hamaru Semi-Active

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    ^^^ True all he has to do is piss you off lol
     
  4. Scorpio3.14 mmmmm....pi

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    What if Ranma used Hiryu Shoten Ha against an extremely pissed off Hulk? :eek
     
  5. Hagen You're gonna hear me roar

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    WRONG SECTION
     
  6. vagnard Well-Known Member

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    According to the Outskirts Battledome Hulk would just punch the reality sucking Ranma into a Black Hole.
     
  7. Hamaru Semi-Active

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    I'd say that Hulk woud end up Died since it would go on for so long and more pissed he gets more Damage he would take.And Hulk can be stopped youll know if you watched iron man (hulk buster)
     
  8. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    The Hulk would have to have to have Ki for that to work, which he doesn't.
     
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    Hiryu Shoten Ha can work either with the heat of an angry ki or with regular heat. In the last arc Ranma used the heat from the Gekkaja to create a Hiryu Shoten Ha. Ki is just the most nearly and powerful source. Anyway...Hulk doesn't produce too much heat at last until I know....but against things like Gears Hiryu Shoten Ha should work pretty well.
     
  10. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    No it wouldn't work. It takes "hot" and "cold" ki to swirl together, basically angry and calm ki. Ki is a must
     
  11. Darklyre ponies!

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    What about a bloodlusted Iceman? He's extremely angry, but extremely cold at the same time!
     
  12. Hamaru Semi-Active

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    Wow lol....good one
     
  13. vagnard Well-Known Member

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    No. Ranma proved that was wrong in last arc. He used the heat produced by Gekkaja (a batton that produces heat) to create a Hiryu Shoten Ha. Ki isn't a must.
     
  14. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    I'm getting my ass handed to me in the OB
     
  15. Scorpio3.14 mmmmm....pi

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    Actually, the Hiryu Shoten Ha dosn't require your enemy to have Ki. All that is needed is for your oppnent to have a hot "battle aura" or "fighting spirit" (same thing, different translations). Battle Aura is different from Ki. A battle aura is given off by anyone in a serious competative or fighting mode. It can be hot if the person is fighting out of anger, revenge, bloodlust, etc... or cool if the person is fighting calmly.

    With Hiryu Shoten Ha, only Ranma needs to have Ki, not the opponent. Here is Herb's explination of the technique (Herb is probably the greatest Ki expert in the Ranmaverse):

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    Notice how he says cold "Ki" must be released by Ranma but no where does it say that the opponent must have Ki. Its a vortext of fighting spirit and not Ki.

    Plus it was also later reveiled that anything hot can be used instead of a battle aura like vagnard pointed out.
     
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    ranma is sooooooooo cute lol
     
  17. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    Remove the sig now!!!! Before you get Banned.
     
  18. Hamaru Semi-Active

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    She can get banned for that?
     
  19. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    That's way too much skin. I may be wrong. But always be on the safe side.
     
  20. Hamaru Semi-Active

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    LOL O That is true....Always keep it safe.
     
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    I was under the impression that since the Hulk is alive, he would have ki. And he's like, the angry machine, he probably produces more hot ki than Ryoga or Ranma's other stronger opponents.
     
  22. Hamaru Semi-Active

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    This is true. Fact is that everyone has ki. It's just that only few know how to make a form out of it.
     
  23. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    Not true for other works of fiction
     
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    Chi Tao means Energy Way. This is the study of how energy flows within our body and within the Universe, with special emphasis on how we access and direct that energy. Life force energy pervades the whole Universe and is called by many names; Ki (Japanese), Chi (Chinese), Prana (Indian) etc. It is abundant in every area of the Universe and is freely accessible to everyone.
     
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    i wonder how Ranma's Hiryu Shoten Ha would fare against Feitan's Pain Packer. both techniques are kinda same.
     
  26. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    Ki doesn't exsist in some fictonal worlds.

    But we know the foe of the user of the Hiryu Shoten Ha don't need Ki.
     
  27. Hamaru Semi-Active

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    ^^^Or maybe they just dont recognize it
     
  28. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    Megaman X verse, Zeldaverse, World of Warcraftverse and many many others make no metion of "ki".

    You can't assume that it exsists.
     
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    Whelp I guess thats, that then lol. Untill I have proof I want asume then:)
     
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    Hulk regenerates and comes back for more and eventually wears down ranma.
    Hulk can be stopped only if they can knock him out or get him to calm down. What ranmas doing is just pissing him off.
     
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