Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Rational1955, Jan 9, 2019.
Just wondering... I'm thinking Vegeta level when Vegeta first appears.
I don’t know but he was way above saiyan saga Vegeta especially once he got mad
I thought it was implied he was as strong as Buu, but not quite 100%
Then in GT they said he was only as strong as Super Buu when he became Majuub.
I don't think that's right
I'm talking about in the Martial Arts tournament (DBZ) not in GT.
Don’t think they ever said he was as strong as Super Buu. By powerscaling he was above Buuhan.
Before majuub he was >kid buu at the least
Uub = Kid Buu, at least potential wise.
But ignoring Uub fusing/merging with Mister Buu, we know the pecking order in GT for heroes went:
Goku > Vegeta > Gohan > everyone else. Majuub proved a better threat to Baby Vegeta then most people did though, can't remember how he did vs SS3 Kid Goku in comparison.
Goku got stomped
Uub put up a better fight
Tournament Uub was raw potential but when he started to get serious against Goku I'd say that he's at least at Fat Buu level. I think it took for him to get trained and refined by Goku in the beginning of GT to reach his Kid Buu or Super Buu level, whichever you'd say was stronger. When he hit Majuub he was to me at least at SSJ3 Gotenks/Goku/ Mystic Gohan level. But that's low balling it.
I'd say stronger than Boo arc SSJ Vegeto considering he forced Super Baby 2 to exert actual effort in overpowering his candy beam
I find it hard to believe he'd be below Super Baby 1 with that fight
at the absolute minimum, Uub there would be much stronger than SSJ3 Baby Saga Goku
I was honestly low-balling with the Buuhan. I couldn't quite remember his feats against Bebi Vegeta. I remember he got stomped out but forgot by which one but yeah, getting Bebi 2 to use some effort already puts him completely out of reach for Buuhan so he was likely in SSJ Vegeto's territory if not above.
the one Uub got stomped in was before his merge with Fat Boo
Lol, I mean yeah? Obviously?
Goku didn't even have to use kaioken against tournament Uub.
When he fought Goku during the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai he could hurt base Goku's arm with one kick once he got mad, and hold his own before pushing him back with a kiai.
Of course, Goku said that Uub didn't even know how to control his power yet, much less know how to fly. And it didn't seem like Goku was using his full power either. Potential-wise, he'd have the capacity to become at least as strong as Kid Buu was.
How strong EoZ Goku is could really be anyone's guess. Tho, if you factor in the events of Super, then Uub even managing to do that little would still make him leagues stronger than anything in Z.
Pre DBS he was an untrained Kid Boo, who can only access that power when pissed off
Post DBS he's able to excite a Goku who survived Beerus, Golden Freeza, Hit, Zamasu, Jiren, Broly, Moro, and probably some angel tier threat, so apparently the guy is somehow more impressive than them with training
You know, I've always wondered. It's made obvious that Uub possesses the potential and hidden power of Kid Buu, but did he actually use SSJ3 tier power against Goku there when he got pissed?
I know that before Super came into existence, a lot of people had EoZ Base Goku around Buu Saga SSJ3 tier based off of that.
I always assumed he did, and I always assumed the power Kid Boo showed was just the starting point for Uub since he excited Goku. Potential is higher for good guys or whatever
How strong "was" Uub? Are you suggesting that he's a thing of the past and Super takes place in some infinite timefrozen hell where Goten, Trunks and Marron never age?
Well tbh i don't think post dbs eoz uub needs to be stronger than kid buu to excite goku. Its his potential that goku had a boner for not the level he was at.
Freeza started at 120 million, trained for 4 months and became > ssb goku
Broly started at 920, trained with dog snakes,spider crabs and nappa tier father for decades and even before fighting was strong enough to startle goku and vegeta and then 2 hours later he was > beerus
oob's starting point would be leagues ahead of both of those and with goku training him, his retarded potential would take him over the top
Yes Super is a hell made by Beerus.
RoF and DBS Gohan/17 justified Oob still being the ending. They both got retarded boosts, so Oob being the dream opponent for Goku still fits.
Possibly Fat Buu level after Goku enraged him...
Damn never thought I’d be saying this but GT actually has a DB anime beat...
Pretty sure it isn’t hard to be Better than a 5 min promotional anime
Time has nothing to do with it. It’s the quality of animation. Broly movie trailers shit on GT...