don't know if it's been discussed but how strong do you think kakashi would've been if he went on an all out training despite obito's death. The comic kind of said Kakashi started slacking off a bit since obito's death. Actually it was kind of obvious I mean kakashi at age 13 can invent a S-rank maneuver, but then after wards he didn't invent anything. Just wondering how strong he would've been. Do you think Kakashi could've been stronger than the sannin's or hokage's?