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I don't hate Super

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Brandon Lee, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Brandon Lee

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    But it's just fanservice

    sorry , i had to say it.

    Even GT had better story.

    Things Super is better at than GT :

    Fanservice
    world building
    Fighting Choreography

    Things GT is better at than Super:

    Lore
    Story telling
    Character Designs
    Transformations
    Emotional scenes
    Art Style (overall)
    OST

     
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    Nope.
     
  3. Prince Vegeta

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    Fuck GT

    They fucked up everyone but goku.

    Vegeta only showed up for 4 episodes he looks terrible. I can't believe how they could possibly ruin vegeta so much the amount of hate they had for him lol
    Probably straw berry carrot tops fav show lol.
     
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    Why would someone hate one of the greatest TV shows of all time?
     
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    is everyone above me retarded? :leo
    Edit: and below
     
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    I've got to admit: The emotional scenes in GT were awesome and had a lot of emotions. However, both soundtracks are good. In fact, the scene where Piccolo saves Gohan is totally carried by the awesome ost behind. Super has pretty good ost.

    But in character's expressions, is hard beating Trunks turning into SSJ or Gohan. In fact, Super did show it's version of Trunks turning into SSJ and it was far from being the same. Anyway, is just a flaw, Super's character designs are good, soundtrack is EPIC as fuck too.

    For me, the only non debatable thing is character's expressions when someone died, wich Z and GT has Super beat. Every other thing is debatable.
     
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    I do not hate super nor GT, I like both but I think super is much better.
     
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    Camera angles fsce expressions and a more darker/mature tone is somethinh GT has the edge on

    Maybe super did well expanding the world and displaying other characters

    But oh my gosh ive never seen shittier writers before.

    When super come backs they better fire some writers
     
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    What Super needs iron editor backed up by lore memorizers.

    There really is no excuse for Toppo to watch SSBKKx20 one episode and then look completely shocked when he sees SSB.
     
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    i was about to quote you in order to show this reference, this is the kind of stupid shit i'm talking about.
     
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    DBS's manga isn't much worse than the original Dragon Ball manga. Not that it isn't terrible, but still.

    The anime is another story, though. LOL
     
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    Dragon Ball Super can't touch Bruce Faulconer.



    This ost is raw motherfucking power (I still get chills to this day whenever I listen to it).
     
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    Sure but GT didn't have Faulconer either
     
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    GT can't touch Bruce Faulconer either. :mjlol
     
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    z > super > gt
     
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    Yeah you lost me when you said "even GT had a better story!"

    There was absolutely nothing compelling about 2 of the arcs in GT, the Shadow Dragons arc is an arc that had a decent idea but awful execution and the Baby arc underachieved but is still good, and the only good arc in GT.

    Yes, if you just look at Piccolo's death scenes then obviously GT blows Super out of the water, but that's just ya know, one scene from each series??
     
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    there are planty of scene in super that shit on GT.
     
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    Why are you unbanned again? I demand an answer!
     
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    Bruce Faulconer can suck my dick. Most of his soundtracks are some tune repeating itself over and over.
     
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    But their catchy and fit the moment. Which is why a lot of people like them. I can still remember my first OG Dbz dvd and how badass the soundtrack worked for the fights and intensity.


    Vegeta was mishandled badly from the start. But his design after he shaved wasn't too bad for me. I actually kind've felt his hairstyle change was merited for his aging. Though it does clash with the idea of saiyan hairstyles being untouchable. He did have his moments from there and they definitely could have done better. But I wouldn't say he was shit tier ruined.

    GT was fun. Super was fun.
     
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    Correction: GT had better ideas and concepts. It did not have a better story. Not even close.
     
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    better ideas and concepts? Are you sure? GT is inferior in every way outside of SSJ4
     
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    The design and concept of SSJ4 was undoubtedly more creative and the thought put behind how it originated is considerably better than SSJG and SSJB. Most people agree with this and you imply to agree as well given your response. There's more to it than just that tho.

    The concept behind Baby being a creature born to exact revenge on the Saiyans for the Tsufurians they wiped out decades before was also a great one, but executed very poorly. The same is true for the shadow dragons. The dragonballs themselves rebelling against the people that used them for all the selfish wishes that was made using them is a fantastic idea, but when push came to shove and they had to write the characters out, it was hot garbage at best.

    Super does the exact opposite. With two tournament arcs, a repeated albeit reversed time traveling arc, and literal retellings of the movies, you'd be hard-pressed to think any of those are good ideas on the surface. Putting aside the retellings, despite the arcs being poor ideas, not to mention more nuanced elements within those arcs like literally bringing Future Trunks back, Evil Goku and reviving Frieza a third time, the character interactions were admittedly very entertaining and I always looked forward to my Sunday mornings week to week when I was able to watch DBS episodes. I couldn't say the same for GT if I tried.
     
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    BoG is a fantastic idea, the fact that it is a retelling of a movie is completely irrelevant because evaluating the merits of Super should be done in a vacuum ignoring crap like a movie. Look at Super for what it is, just itself alone, without considering other crap. Sure, RoF was stupid.

    A light-hearted tournament with little consequences reminiscent of the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai.
    An arc about a corrupted God who wants to eradicate mortals which he considers inferior for their violent nature and propensity to apparently put their hands on a God.(Goku)
    A multiversal tournament for the grand ruler's entertainment with their entire Universe at stake, taking on a format of an 80 player Battle Royale.

    The only one that's actually a shitty idea is "oh bring back Freeza and have Goku kill him"
     
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    GT was pure fanservice ^ (use bro) wtf?
    Brb Vegeta is possessed so they can have ANOTHER Goku vs Vegeta arc
    Oh look 17 is back and so is Dr Gero and all these other old villains
    Vegeta interacts with Nappa again
    Oh now we got evil dragons
    Gogeta is back!
    Come on bruh
     
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    Honestly they both kinda suck.
     
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    This

    They both suck lmao

    Good ideas, but terrible execution

    That's GT and Super in a nuthshell

    Only difference is that one's canon and the other isn't
     
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    Lets be real both shows are trash and inferior to Z in every way
    Arguing about which show suck more is the equivalent on which shit smells the worse
     
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