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If Akainu were a pirate...

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Luiz, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. GrizzlyClaws Big Bad Grizzly

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    Oda said if Akainu was the MC, he could end One Piece (the manga) in a year. Nothing about pirate or finding One Piece.

    As you should know actually, since you quoted him in your next post.
     
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  2. Edward Teach Well-Known Member

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    come on man LOL
     
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  3. Admiral Kizaru One Piece Expert

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    I've been watching a lot of Wire clips lately and I'm reminded of little Kenard getting his ass beaten by Michael leading him to eventually go on and kill Omar. :trinny


    Just what exactly do you think the end goal of a MC in this manga is? It was literally stated in chapter one and countless times thereafter.
     
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  4. Avalon

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    I can't speak for Kaidou and Shanks since we haven't seen anything yet. However, I can say with complete confidence that Akainu would destroy Big Mom. Akainu was a million times more impressive than her.
     
  5. Fel1x Friend of the Grummles

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    She is a person from Roger's generation. She hasn't got any scars on her all this time because of her steel body and she didn't loose any wars. Why do you think Akainu would destroy her? And more, why do you think Akainu would even damage her?

    Yeah I know she was portrayed pretty bad. But her "skin armor" is something even in her skinny form which we have seen the last time.
     
  6. Avalon

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    "She is a person from Roger's generation"

    "She has no scars"

    "She's a Yonkou"

    Once upon a time, those hype phrases would be considered valid arguments. Not anymore though, Oda saw to that after he decided to humiliate her.

    Why do I think Akainu would destroy her? Because Akainu has excellent feats against Whitebeard and Aokiji. He has proven that he can fight, maim, and defeat top tiers. Can the same be said for Big Mom however?

    Big Mom was bloodlusted when she attacked Jimbei and Base Luffy with Prometheus and they both casually dodged it. When she tried again to kill Luffy with the Spear of Elbaf, all she did was casually hurt a fodder tree. Even during her tantrum at the beginning of WCI, she tried punching her son in her bloodlusted state and he was still dodging her attacks.

    Big Mom's offensive capabilities are honestly trash. Akainu was able to endure an island splitting punch from the World Strongest Man and get back up to continue fighting, Big Mom hasn't shown anything close to that damage output so how exactly is she supposed to put down Akainu? Her best offensive feat is literally putting down Judge for a few chapters.

    Yonkou fans need to pray to whatever God they worship that Kaido delivers in Wano, because Big Mom has completely destroyed the credibility of the Yonkou. An entire arc dedicated to her and she doesn't have one single impressive offensive feat, absolutely embarrassing. Akainu absolutely destroys her.
     
  7. Fel1x Friend of the Grummles

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    Even immortal Kaido has scars. Scars are something upon you can judge about person's past. Being Yonko=battles all the time. And she hasn't got scars from this fights.

    Bad portrayal, some humilative one doesn't mean that she is weak.
    Excellent feats against Aokiji? They were so even that they were fighting for days. Against WB? WB was pierced by fodder because of his age and desease, ofcourse Akainu did some damage before he got wracked

    Ok, they can dodge her attacks but their attacks won't do shit against her even if she won't block them.

    As for her offensive abilities, yeah, they were quite clumsy. But I believe fully prepared BM would be a much more different. But it's not an argument because we haven't seen fully prepared and calm BM. Just wait until Elbaf.

    She easily blocked Luffy's strongest attack. This attack is not too far from WB's.
     
  8. Avalon

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    Being Yonkou = battle all the time against top tiers? Or is that an assumption that you're simply making? Remember what we recently found out about Katakuri never fighting any strong opponents.

    I actually have no issues with top tiers getting bad portrayal, it happens all the time. Buggy dodging Akainu's attack comes to mind, or Axe Hand Morgan wounding Garp, Fujitora getting pushed back by Luffy/Zoro, ect ect. The issue isn't Big Mom's bad portrayal, every top tier looks bad once in a while. The issue is that Big Mom doesn't have a single impressive offensive feat during an arc dedicated to her and her crew. Akainu, Fujitora, Garp and every other top tier have all looked bad at one point, heck even Shanks lost his arm to a fish. Difference is that Oda makes up for it by making them all look extremely impressive while doesn't give that same respect to Big Mom. Is it because she's a woman? Or because his health is declining? Or he lost his touch as a mangaka? Or his editors suck dick? Who knows.

    I don't understand how you can criticize these feats when they are more impressive then anything Big Mom has ever done.

    Uh no, that's not how this works. Akainu's attacks have proven to work on multiple top tiers so there is no reason to assume that it won't work on Big Mom. You can't just apply a no limits fallacy to Big Mom's durability just because people weaker than Akainu have failed to injure her, it's intellectually dishonest.

    If Big Mom shows impressive feats the next time she appears, then I will happily change my stance about her.

    You think a Gear 4th punch can split Marineford in half?
     
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  9. Gohara Ryutoshi

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    Except for easily overpowering a legendary character on the most powerful island in the series while at less than .00001% of her current degree of power. Compare that to Whitebeard doing less than that to a non-legendary character in John Giant whose rank wouldn't be more than around decent on Elbaf Island.

    Also you're arguing that a slash only destroyed a tree. Not only is that not true because it also cracks a cake mountain what else is in it's way except for a tree and a cake mountain? It's not like we would argue that Mihawk only one shotted Mr. 1. Obviously Mihawk can one shot characters that are superior to Mr. 1 however Mr. 1 is the only character in the way.

    Also doesn't it matter more how characters perceive feats and not fans? Characters like Luffy and Jinbe are amazed at that firepower so obviously Oda does not at all agree with the idea that the portrayal is lame.

    Competence and intelligence wise I can sort of understand the constructive criticism however none of the constructive criticism for the skill based feats make a lot of sense in my opinion. As you're suggesting other characters have had characters far inferior to them dodge and withstand techniques. :p
     
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  10. redrum

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    ava

    this tl;dr worries me

    cease and desist immediately or i'm callin 911 :catstalk
     
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