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If Wind is the shit in close combat...

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives' started by RAGING BONER, Sep 26, 2006.

  1. RAGING BONER

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    then why the hell did Asuma use cigarette jutsu instead of wind jutsu?

    is Puroto no jutsu to blame or can you think of a better reason?
     
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  2. Marsala

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    Asuma was at mid to long range when he used the Katon. Close combat is practically hand-to-hand.
     
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    It's a close to mid range attack (wind based attacks)

    Katon is mid-long range attack.

    Probably why.
     
  4. Naruto_Rasengan

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    Asuma seems to have been at mid - long range when he unleashed his Katon, Asuma quite possibly felt that a Katon was the safest bet at his current range, thus choosing it over any of his wind element jutsu (assuming he has them).
     
  5. dregoth

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    Asuma didn't use his knives from start because they're made from a metal rarer than Shodai's necklace, so they're pretty precious to be wasted.

    It also demonstrates that the only wind jutsu he knows is chakra infusion.

    Such lame character shall be dying in 2 days or so.
     
  6. NarutoPurePwnage

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    Power of Wind will only be shown by Naruto. You can't have jaw dropping moments with other characters, then what will Naruto be left with.
     
  7. Bananna

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    It depends on what jutsu Asuma knows. And just because wind is 'best' at a particular kind of combat doesn't mean there aren't long-range wind jutsu.
     
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    Because if he used a Wind jutsu, he would have been dead.
     
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    because he was too far away to use a wind jutsu. so, instead he used a katon jutsu.
     
  10. ♠Mr.Nibbles♠

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    That is so true Asuma is just there to give a glimse into what wind can do
     
  11. G3ntleF!st

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    Sure use a wind jutsu to cut Hiden of all ppl thats real smart you have a chance to burn someone you take it.
     
  12. Odlam

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    Plot reasons.

    The smoke and flame obscured some critical details of Hidan's ceremony to make it harder for us readers to figure out.

    It's not a coincidence that it all happened right as Hidan was transforming, some evidence of what type of jutsu it is was hidden from us - this is a theory from another thread (not mine, but I promote it) btw - that Hidan's jutsu was actually a summoning jutsu (ala the death god where the summon cannot be seen by the naked eye, instead only by the summoner) and the smoke and fire obscured him placing his hand to the ground to complete the summoning rite.
     
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    I thought he was trying to immobilize Hidan first. That way, there would be less resistance when he tried to cut off his head or whatever.
     
  14. RAGING BONER

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    It's kind of sad really...both Gai and Kakashi put up a reasonable fight against the Akatsuki clones, but Asuma is looking like a straight up punk right now.

    If Asuma's best is some sloppy knife taijutsu and some cigarette ash katon's then I don't see how he could be considered an elite jounin on Kaka/Gay's level...

    So far I place Naruto & the Sauce above him...from what I've seen, Asuma has no heart.
     
  15. BattousaiMS

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    Wind iis an element that is strong both in offense and defense making it the perfect element for a fighter. However that being said it is also the most hardest element to controle in you think in real life. Fire has a certain limit, water has a certain limit, earth has a certain limit but wind is pretty much limitless as you can pretty much find it everywhere. So theoritically it should be the most hardest element to control.

    As for why Asuma didn't use cigarette jutsu, first of all if there ever was a cigarette jutsu it would have been fire related and not wind, unless your talking about asphysixing someone to death via cigarette smoke, which is pretty much a waste of chakra since all the persona has to do is no breath for an instant and clear himself from the smoke and you would have no effect on him. The only way it would work is if you have the person is cornered in a room with no exits and fully closed from all sides but in those cases it's a double suicide.
     
  16. RAGING BONER

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    cigarette jutsu = burning cloud of ash that Asuma used on Hidan...which sorta backfired.

    Asuma should have used some Baki-like shit to slice off some limbs...its not like he knew about Hidan's immortality voodoo.

    I call PnJ.
     
  17. Dao

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    hey stop with the Asuma bashing will ya geez, plots are plots gosh. we'll just have to see in 325 what will Shikamaru show us. and maybe Asuma might kick some ass with jutsus he hasn't shown to us yet.


    ~daomoua2
     
  18. kulgan18

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    In any case, i think the strenght of an element depends entirely on the strenght of the jutsu.
    For example doesnt temari's wind attack count as the wind element from a distance?
    So that means, close combat, range combat it all depends on the jutsus the guy knows not the element.
     
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    i agree ^^
     
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    Asuma may have wind affinity but we don't know how long he's been working with it, or what jutsu's come most easily to him or what his chakra capacity is. I haven't checked the databooks but Baki seems older than Asuma to me for some reason. I'd chalk up his superior (so far) wind jutsu to more experience. This fight isn't over yet. My only concern is Asuma seems scared, like he's read too many Akatsuki fanboy posts and doesn't think he can touch them. Hopefully we'll see more surprises to come and he'll get a second (hehe) wind.
     
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    The plot called for a jutsu that isn't lethal and is big and flashy. So, the story called for a katon.
     
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    It is true that Asuma is probably not on Gai's or Kakashi's level... But these two are pretty much above the normal jounin level, I think. And even then, none of the two have
    had an easy victory on an Akatsuki. If we compare Asuma to Kurenai, for instance, he
    looks much better already.
     
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    You only just caught onto this?

    Plot. The attack was made to show us Hidans Voodo ability and the effect it has reflected back on Asuma.
     
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    see IMO the wind element can not be implemented in a jutsu so easy the only person that used wind element jutsu was Tenmari and she even had the weapon not exactly hand seals. I didn't include Gaara for the fact he was in bijuu mode,Baki we never heard him say any jutsu name.
     
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    Akatsuki is still a group of pansies to tenten...
     
  26. The_Leader

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    Wind I'm imagining ain't exactly the easiest element to use at ranges.

    That probably goes for katons and suitons. Besides, didn't Hidan already cut through one of the knives anyways, ultimate cutting power and all?

    Come to think of it, what is spiritual pressure, anyways?
     
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    Because he couldn't get close and much less touch Hidan so he used an AOE attack :)
     
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    oh spiritual pressure is water down version of ki from dbz.
     
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    plain ol' same thing, differing names.
     
  30. The_Leader

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    So in other words....spiritual pressure is chakra?

    Dammit. I was hoping for something along the lines of mysticism and faith, the whole ''becoming the weapon'' stuff, but oh well.
     
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