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‘I’ll resign if anybody can prove God exists’

Discussion in 'The NF Café' started by kluang, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. kluang The Cavalry's Here

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    This guy should run against Trump in the next election.
     
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    He is not wrong on this

    Not wise, but not wrong.
     
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    This guy is fucking awesome :rotfl
     
  4. kluang The Cavalry's Here

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    True, but saying that in the nation full of Catholic traditionalist is either brave or stupid.

    Or both.
     
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    It is stupid imo. No matter how unpious you are, you normally will get offended if your god get mocked like that.
     
  6. Mider T Busting in and out of guts

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    Honestly surprised this hasn't outraged the Phillippines.
     
  7. hadou bad motherfucker

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    Big Bang theory: Hard to believe that something came out of nothing. Then again, it is easier to argue that something doesn’t exist than to prove that something does exist.
     
  8. makeoutparadise I will have my revenge

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  9. egressmadara Wanderin' About

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    Resign? Haha

    He knows Allah will get him :ufdup

    Get him good
     
  10. Elric of Melniboné White Wolf

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    if there’s “one single witness” who can prove, perhaps with a picture or a selfie that a human was “able to talk and to see God”, he will immediately resign.-Duterte

    "...God is clearly plain, God has shown it to them. Seeing his invisible attributes in the things that are made. They are without excuse" ~Romans 1

    "there must be a God or a supreme being that prevents billions of stars and celestial bodies from colliding in a frequency that could have long threatened the human race."-Duterte

    He removed himself from office.:kobeha
     
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  12. afgpride Retired Staff

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    wtf i love duterte now

    Seriously though, this guy supports extrajudicial execution of his own citizens and is willing to commit mass murder in pursuit of Machiavellian ends. That alone should be enough to sanction him, offending religious people aside.
     
  13. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    He is not wrong though. :kanyeshrug
    This whole original sin thing is pretty stupid.
     
  14. Drake WORK MAKES YOU FREE

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    > people liking Duterte just because he insulted God :zaheer

    I thought Duterte had popular support among the Philippines' general masses, so this sounds like an incredibly stupid move. It's like Trump saying Jesus didn't exist.
     
  15. Former OBD Lurker. Well-Known Member

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    I like that you have the balls to say what you want.
     
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    Our president is funnier. :cat
     
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  18. Alwaysmind 总是心神

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    he's a flip flopping idiot, i mean did anyone forget him flip flopping with the marriage thing?
    not really, people are already doing some incredible mental gymnastics to justify this. like how he was actually referring to god in the context of the catholic religion instead of it being a personal connection or some other bullshit like that
     
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    from PH here.. .

    the guy is still best president so far :kannasip
     
  21. Cardboard Tube Knight Chika is god now.

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    I see God's Not Dead III is coming along nicely.
     
  22. mr_shadow Minister of State Security Moderator

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    God as an explanation for creation causes an infinite regression though, because you can always ask:

    "Well, who created God?"

    "Well, who created the thing that created God?"

    "Well, who created the thing that created the thing that created God?"

    Ad infinitum...

    You're just pushing the issue further back into the past without getting an actual answer to "where did the first thing ever come from?"

    To which Augustine and others will say "why, God exists outside of time and was never created!"

    But if we're admitting that something can exist outside of time and not require creation, then why does the first thing have to be God specifically? Couldn't the super-singularity that was prior to the Big Bang just have existed outside of time and not required creation all by its lonesome, without God to accompany it?
     
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  23. hadou bad motherfucker

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    In other words, unknown happenstance? Flimsy, but in present terms, true.
     
  24. wibisana still newbie

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    Compared to Marcos, aquino etc. Yeah iirc
     
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    Stephen Hawking wrote in his A Brief History of Time (1988) that as far as science is concerned the universe might as well have started at the Big Bang, because if it was truly a singularity it's impossible to reconstruct what came before it anyway.

    If you find pieces of glass vaguely resembling a drinking glass scattered at the foot of a table, you can reconstruct that probably there was once a drinking glass on top of the table and then something tipped it over and smashed it.

    But if I grind all the pieces into fine glass powder and distribute it evenly across the floor of the room, it will be much harder to deduce either what the original glass object looked like (a drinking glass? a bowl? a vase?) or at what location in the room the smashing took place.

    Hawking thought that at the beginning of time the universe would have been so "smashed up" inside the singularity that we can never recover any clue as to what it might have looked like before that time. So we should focus our efforts on what came immediately after.
     
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  26. HolyHands Let me touch you

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    Once you reach cult of personality status, you can essentially say and do whatever you want and your supporters will twist themselves into pretzels to justify it. It wouldn't surprise me if Duterte said something controversial on purpose just to see what he can get away with.

    It's nothing unique to the Philippines either. Trump could say the same, and there'd be a dozen Fox News segments on how he didn't really mean that and how it was actually a statement against liberals or some shit.
     
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    Maybe he'll get struck down by lightning now.
    I think most everyone there has enough concerns about him as it is; as offensive as this would be to a large percentage of the population, this is still small fries compared to a lot of the shit he's done.
     
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    Aquino doesn't even compare.. Although Marcos is quite close
     
  29. Takano-san Doroshī no yūjin

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    That is a vast simplification. First, let's talk about how scientific theories work. First, comes hypothesis. Then, comes experimentation to test said hypothesis over and over and over again to test something called variables in what is called a science laboratory. In the case of The Big Bang, there is a huge contraption called a Hadron Collider in a .



    If God created the universe, who are we to question how she did so?
     
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  30. hadou bad motherfucker

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    Science aims to solve the unknown, driven by curiosity of course. I’d usually say it’s only a matter of when and not if, but in this regard, I can’t be sure.
     
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