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Is Marco above the other YC1s?

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by Shiroryu, Aug 8, 2019.

Marco vs Katakuri

  1. Marco high diff

    46.5%
  2. Marco extreme diff

    37.2%
  3. Tie

    11.6%
  4. Katakuri extreme diff

    2.3%
  5. Katakuri high diff

    2.3%
  1. DiscoZoro20

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    His observation haki definitely but physical strength and speed is arguable. Both have impressive feats in that regard. Katakuri dodges super fast and catches up too Gear 4 but Marco is also fast enough to make Kizaru express surprise almost catching him off guard. And both have shown powerful close quarter combat moves. Can be argued either way in those two stats imo.
     
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    Marco still probably claps those cheeks high-diff.
     
  3. Gohara

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    I don't know that Kizaru's reaction to Marco is necessarily because of his speed unless you're referring to a panel that I can't currently remember :p

    Even though I agree that admiral => yonkou fans underestimate Marco's physical strength a lot or rather they assume that his slashes are his most powerful techniques, they are the most powerful offensive techniques that he has shown thus far whereas Lord Katakuri has easily out strengthed gear 3rd with basic techniques
     
  4. DiscoZoro20

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    No no I mean exactly that panel. I dunno what else his reaction should refer to? Kizaru already saw him regenerate from the first attack and he seemed to know exactly what fruit that is as well making it even weirder if he would be surprised about regen. The strength point: as I said it is arguable. I can definitely see Katakuri having more physical strength but also the other way around. Kicking someone even while he blocks you at such a massive speed that Kizaru crashes to the ground and causing a explosion is equally insane imo.
     
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    Vista > Katakuri
     
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    Marco
    More powerful than Kaido, Big Mom, Katakori, Cracker, Oven
     
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    I have no reason to put Marco above or below the first mates shown thus far.

    He's capabilities were good to hold against the admirals powers.

    Not sure how good his haki is.

    The mind fuck BB gave him might have screwed with him.
     
  9. Gohara

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    Which panel?

    I get what you mean, we have barely seen Marco in match ups thus far so his character can have more in his arsenal than what we have seen thus far.

    I thought that the explosion is from Kizaru's devil fruit. Either way we've seen that a somewhat battle worn gear 3rd Luffy can physically push back Fujitora. Lord Katakuri is significantly physically superior to Luffy. However looking at those comparisons I can see how it is debatable. With that I agree. Feats wise I still think that Lord Katakuri is more impressive however there is nothing wrong with your view on that. :p
     
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    -The one in which he charged Kizaru head on with Kiz expressing surprise the moment Marco appeared right in front of his face. I believe you were thinking of the same panel. That panel makes me believe he could be argued as even faster than Katakuri. Who knows really?

    -Yep pretty much.

    -The explosion is surely from Kiz' devil fruit. What I mean is the fact that Kizaru got accelerated so much that he travels all that huge distance and his light body creates enough impact that it would cause his devil fruit to transfer that energy into an explosion is an impressive strength feat. Just imagine Nami with the Phoenix fruit going up there kicking Kizaru the same way and you will realize why I give this panel so much value.

    I definitely agree with your conclusion I'm just saying one can easily see Marco being better at those stats especially if he gets to show more.
     
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    Kata is the weakest like his captain, while Marco is only second strongest FM/ VC currently.

    Ben is top dog.
     
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    Marco > Jozu >= Vista / Ace > Kakatakuri

    Marco was on the verge of becoming a Yonko himself, which is why the WG thought he could stop Teach who was also on the verge of becoming a Yonko. In this way he is the closest YFM to becoming a Yonko besides maybe Ben if we believe his Vivre Card. Katakuri is obviously very far off from Yonko level due to Luffy who beat him being one-shot by a Yonko. Jozu, Ace, and Vista all have better portrayal stopping Admiral or Mihawk attacks then Luffy against Kaidou too; and I don’t believe Kaidou drunk basic club strike is above that off the attacks these characters blocked form Admirals / Mihawk.
     
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    @ disczoro

    Ah, I assume that you're referring to the exclamation marks that are presumably from Kizaru although they could be from Whitebeard, however I don't think that Kizaru would be able to see the target at that point because of the light and being focused on Whitebeard's character. I don't think of that as Kizaru reacting about Marco's speed specifically however I could be wrong, and we agree that Marco a showing more feats could show that he is superior to other yonkou first mates. :p
     
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    @DiscoZoro20
     
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    id say benn is the only first mate stronger than him

    benn > marco >= king > katakuri

    (whenever we find out for certain who teach's first mate is, ill rank them accordingly)
     
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