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Is Sakura the Best?

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives' started by Wrath, Jun 8, 2005.

  1. Wrath Mourning

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    Okay, we can reasonably assume that Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are going to grow up to be the next generation of Sannin. This is heavily, heavily implied over and over again, so let's not argue that point.

    What does that mean? As a trio they will become extremely powerful and famous. Naruto is likely to become Hokage at some point, so he will become as powerful as a Kage, probably discluding the Kyuubi power. As Sannin they will also be on the same level with each other, maintaining the Sansukumi balance where Naruto > Sakura > Sasuke > Naruto.

    But Naruto has the major, major advantage of the Kyuubi. As an adult he's going to have more power at his disposal than, well, anyone. That means also that Sakura and Sasuke are going to have to keep up with him somehow if they can be worthy of being Sannin with him.

    Sasuke's "superpowers" are obvious. The Sharingan, with all its many and varied powers; possibly the Mangekyou or some other evolved form of the Sharingan; and possibly the Curse Seal, which he may or may not keep as an adult.

    But Sakura... Sakura doesn't have any superpowers. No blood limit, no sealed demon. Nothing. Maybe she'll be able to break mind control jutsus with her Inner Sakura, but that's not exactly going to let her keep up with the other two.

    Preskip Sakura was, well, pretty useless as a ninja while Naruto and Sasuke were pretty damn good for Genin even excluding their superpowers. Postskip, however, Sakura has shown a simply amazing level of growth. In under three years she managed to seemingly master the medic-nin arts, as she was not only able to remove the poison from Kankurou's body instantly, but she was able to make an antidote for Sasori's super poison which not even Chiyo could do. Chiyo said then that the only person more skilled at antidotes in the world was Tsunade, which would put Sakura up there in the top three (depending on whether she's better than Kabuto or not).

    That is an AMAZING growth in three years. From useless to world-class medic-nin. Considering how long it takes for people in the real world to become doctors that's simply ridiculous.

    And what makes it even more amazing is what Kakashi said in 246 - Sakura is not a Ninjutsu type, she's a Genjutsu type. She hasn't even started to seriously study her own speciality.

    So if Sakura doesn't have her own superpower, is she going to make up for it by just being that damn good at regular ninja powers? Is she going to be so good at medic jutsus and so good at Genjutsus that she can make up for not having the Kyuubi or the Sharingan and still be on par with the other two Sannin? Because at the moment that's what it looks like.

    Sakura will eventually be the greatest medic-ninja in the world, since she will surpass Tsunade. At the same time she's probably going to be the greatest Genjutsu user in the world as well, even without Doujutsu. She's going to be either the strongest or one of the strongest ninjas physically thanks to her chakra control, which will also be one of the best if not the absolute best in the world.

    So, in terms of pure ability and nothing else - is Sakura the best? It certainly looks like she's going to learn more and master more under her own power than anyone else.
     
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  2. Darts on darts

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    i dont think so..
    i dont think naruto relied that much on the kyubi during his training..mayb it provided him with more chakra which might have allowed him to learn high chakra jutsus earlier
    and sasuke,we havent even see him yet mayb he improved more than sakura during the 3 years..he was the genius of the team even before he gained the sharingan
     
  3. Merciless !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I dont think they will be the next "sannin"

    I do think they will be somthing similar, though not equal, the sannin were a team for a very long time, while team 7 lasted just over a year?

    So far we hav'nt seen sakura perform any genjutsu, which she is ment to be best at. We have seen her, with amazing strength, and a nack for medical ninjutsu. But thats about it.

    Sakura still has'nt landed a punch/kick or scratch on an enemy, so i still think sakura, is more of a support nin, who heals wounds, and stays back in defence of the mission objective.

    Though sakura does seem to master simple techniques very well, i think she will get very tired quickly, if she trys going mono on mono with sasuke/naruto. As kakashi said "Though sasuke and naruto have an uncomparbly larger amount of chakra within them"(or words to that affect).
     
  4. Kahlua2606 ANBU

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    Sakura has shown a lot of growth, that is true, but if she's going to follow in the path of Tsunade (which seems pretty obvious at this point), any further growth will only be in chakra level and medical abilities. She has shot up in potential, as you pointed out, but I think she will soon plateau, and won't have a high a potential as Naruto and Sasuke have. Also, while she might develop strong genjutsu abilities, she doesn't seem that she will be a front line soldier, but rather someone behind the scenes working on medical techniques and doing more planning and administrative work.

    Sasuke, while powerful because of the CS, will probably use it as a crutch and will have minimal growth of his own; therefore, if he were to lose the CS abilities, he would return to being a Genin level, maybe low Chuunin level, nin.

    Naruto has the highest 'upside' of the three; with the benefits that the kyuubi gives him, if he can improve his overall ninja techniques, he will truly be a formidable opponent, someone that even the Akatsuki would not take lightly. It will take Sasuke and Naruto more time to reach their full potential then Sakura, but their abilities should be much greater than hers. All three will be widely known, respected and feared, just as the Sannin are now.
     
  5. chichibird sensei

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    no doubt naruto had the best advantage..
    sauske also will have no prob reaching sannin level with CS and the abundant seals and jutsu oro had which he can copy with sharingan.

    the only remaining is sakura.
    Now , giving her tremendous strength and medic skills sakura demonstrated already put her on par with Tsunade. IF tsunade can be sannin why not sakura.
    In fact if sakura can enhance her genjutsu that is a plus. And with inner sakura, sakura could be the strongest genjutsu user since genjutsu enemy will not work on her.. maybe she can even go 1 on 1 with Itachi tsukoyomi base on genjutsu challenge on her own..

    so why is it so difficult to accept that sakura can be sannin level?
    Most likely it will be naruto < sakura < sasuke < naruto.

    naruto will beat sasuke up.. cause he is the next hokage and sasuke is the anti hokage.. , naruto will lose to sakura cause he dont have the heart to hurt her and he still love her, also naruto is weakest against genjutsu thus if sakura is genjutsu specialist she can pwn naruto ..., sakura will lose to sasuke cause sakura have the hearts to sasuke.. and sakura had nothing that can best sasuke..

    but i do hope that sakura could had a better summon than tsunade... i hate slugs..
    she deserve better..
     
  6. 9th On The Phone

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    No Sakura won't own Neji nor won't she own Lee as well. /Period
     
  7. RAGING BONER Sexual Tyrannosaurus

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    what kinda crack are you smoking?
    like there is ANYWAY in hell that Kishimoto and Japans favorite character is going to stay at genin or chuunin level...jeez, put a "for rent" sign on that space between your ears. Sasuke if anything will be the most powerful of the three untill Naruto goes super kyuubijin.


    as for Sakura...I think she will have a MUCH more important role in the future, this also includes a dramatic display of her new powers.
     
  8. SofaKing New Member

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    I still don't buy this "rock paper scissors" nonsense with the sannin. Tsunade barely managed to fend off an armless, ninjutsuless Orochimaru. She was barely able to beat Kabuto (not counting the blood thing), and he's only on Kakashi's level. She's clearly the weakest of the sannin, which fits perfectly with Sakura always being the weakest of Team 7.
     
  9. Merciless !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Good point, Cookies und milsch for you
     
  10. Kahlua2606 ANBU

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    My point is, ass, that Sasuke isn't exactly going to be put in many physical situations, since Oro is saving him to be his shell. I said that if Sasuke relies only upon the CS for power, and never tries to increase his own personal power, if he loses the CS (which he will at some point) he will go back to being as weak as he was w/o the CS, i.e. a Genin or Chuunin. Sasuke is only powerful right now because of the power given to him by Oro...if he loses that, he will be nothing. If you think outside the box, and not just in the present/past, that would be clear to you. What if Sasuke leaves/get's taken from Oro? Will he still have the CS power? If not, he'd still be rather weak. I agree that Sasuke will become powerful in the end, to complete the 'new Sannin team,' but he won't get that power through the CS or Oro...that's a theme that Kishi is also going to show, that power comes through friendship, not greed.

    Think before you jump up and down on me next time. I do have a point. Ass. haha
     
  11. SofaKing New Member

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    You're the one who needs to think. Oro wants Sasuke's body, so he's going to want it to be as strong as possible. He's not going to let Sasuke slack off and rely on CS2.
     
  12. Dyroness x

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    I agree in most parts, but I want to make something clear. ^^
    Sakura is a GENIUS medical ninja. She owns in that area, pure and simple. Asides from her already perfect chakra control.

    However, I've yet to see more Genjutsu abilities from her - while she may still be good, I don't think it will surpass all the others'.
    Though... I expect something we did not see yet from her. That, definitely, is going to keep her at least not far from Sasuke and Naruto in the future.

    Remember, to "create" is 18456132796 times more difficult than to "destroy".
    I wouldn't mind if she was some good steps away from them in fighting abilities - as long she's the no. 1 Medical-Nin in the world. :nuts
     
  13. Fox_Retainer Along for the ride of life.

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    By ability only, Sakura may be better than Tsunade.

    Compared to Naruto and Sasuke, all three would have to unleash their full potential for me to make a judgement there.
     
  14. cowabunga2k3 New Member

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    umm acutally. tsunade barely managed to fend off CRIPPLEchimaru until she releases her seal thingy whatever and got over her blood fear. then she rolled on Kabuto and Oro hardcore -.- i seem to remember her single handedly kicking the shit out of Manda and because of that, Manda getting pissed @ Oro and saying he'd fk him up the next time he got summoned
     
  15. Kahlua2606 ANBU

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    There has been no sign that Oro's abilities are based solely upon the strength of the container he takes. All Sasuke wants it to gain power to kill Itachi, and he will do anything to gain the power to achieve it. If Oro allows Sasuke to get incredibly strong, Sasuke would try to escape. Sasuke is not Kabuto or Kimimaro, 2 guys who wanted to help Oro in anyway. Sasuke is not the same, and would leave if he got enough power. Are YOU thinking about the possibilities?
     
  16. rasengan 88 New Member

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    No doubt sakura is good,but I don't think she can match up to the level of sasuke and naruto.Yeah,she may become the best medic ninja ever but with her low chakra capacity,it's gonna be a feat for her to be as good as naruto and sasuke.
     
  17. hit0k1ri Lord King

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    Once Sasuke surpasses Orochimaru and his teachings, he'll just kill him and leave. Sasuke was fairly useless as a Genin. That's why Oro gave him the CS. But because it plateus your maximum power when you use it, it'll keep him under check. Then when Oro takes over his body, he can just remove the CS and go from there. That's what Sasuke needs to realise now. CS is only going to take him so far. I'm sure he's not content with just relying on something like the CS. He's far too proud for that. That's why he didn't kill Naruto to gain the Mangekyou Sharingan. He wants to do it on his own.

    Sakura's powers will increase. She's going to be an extremely powerful well-rounded fighter. Skilled in hand-to-hand combat, Genjutsu AND healing jutsu. She'll be one tough nut to crack once she gets her shit together.
     
  18. SofaKing New Member

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    I think you need to go re-read the manga and notice little details like how Gamabunta was fighting Manda, and how Naruto was the one who injured Kabuto, and how she was completely out of chakra at the end of the fight.

    Ok. Now try to explain why Orochimaru bothers to pick out strong people to be used as his containers instead of just picking up some bum off the street. Really, I want to see the mental gymnastics required to justify this nonsense.
     
  19. Jones ...and they served the beam.

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    you're going on a lot of assumptions dude. she might not use her genjutsu later on and just do what tsunade did and use her medical jutsu for fighting purposes.
     
  20. Darts on darts

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    i dont think that'll be a problem...stamina is quite easy to improve on than chakra contol
    seriously if sakura actually ask lee to help her train physically she can easily fix her stamina problem..with her excellent chakra control she wont need as much stamina as naruto or sasuke
     
  21. Hoshigaki Kisame00 Fear My Samehada

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    Tsunade couldn't defeat Orochimaru because:

    1. She hasn't fought in many years since she quit being a ninja.
    2. She isn't the fighter type, she is like a white mage in an RPG, basically makes up with her medical jutsus
    3. Her phobia of blood also slow her down.
    4. Kabuto did some damage to her and she wasted a lot of chakra on healing herself and rebirth generation technique
    5. Orochimaru could handle all those hits because he has a younger body while Tsuande and Jiraiya are 50 years old

    Number 2 and 5, i'm not exactly sure but it seems like it

    So I THINK Tsunade is a little bit stronger than Kakashi.Not strong as Jiraiya and Orochimaru but makes it up with her medical jutsus that only her and her apprentice knows.

    Sakura is probably going to be like Tsunade with her so called skills on genjutsu (Can someone explain to me how she is good in genjutsu when she only knows how to dispell genjutsu
     
  22. Uzumaki teKoa New Member

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    Those containers are strong because they have a bloodlimit and thats what oro wants,he doesnt pick strong people without bloodlimit (Except for the 1 he is in now because he needed a container fast).
     
  23. Hoshigaki Kisame00 Fear My Samehada

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    do we know for a fact that he has no bloodline limit?
     
  24. Kahlua2606 ANBU

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    We don't know anything about him, and I think there's a reason for that. If he had any sort of bloodline limit that made him powerful, Kishi would have let us know. He was powerful enough to kill off all of the other people he was stuck in that room with (or at least survive), but Oro clearly didn't pick him out, so it wouldn't seem that he's the least bit extraordinary.
     
  25. SofaKing New Member

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    Ok, what bloodline did the body he used to fight Sandaime have?
     
  26. Uzumaki teKoa New Member

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    That body was probably just the same as now,the main container Kimimaro or something got sick and suddenly oro needed a new body.
     
  27. Exerci Bored lazy dude

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    Well, seeing as that body was his first switch, it could be that he was just testing out if the jutsu even worked? *Shrug*
     
  28. itachidattebayo 鏡花水&#2637

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    The Sannins will always be Oro, Jiraiya and Tsunade......No new sannins or wadeva.....they are Team 7!!!!!
     
  29. Wrath Mourning

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    *bangs head against wall*

    Listen, I'm not saying that Sakura is going to be the most powerful or as absolutely powerful as Naruto or Sasuke. Instead I'm saying that in terms of regular ninja skills overall she's going to be the best, with the most expertise and the most skills.

    In terms of the stats used in the Databooks, Sakura will be the best in: Genjutsu, Intelligence, Strength and Seals. Naruto will be the best in Ninjutsu and Stamina and Sasuke the best in Taijutsu and Speed.

    And please, it's been foreshadowed since the very beginning that Team 7 would become the next generation of Sannin. Arguing that point is pretty useless.
     
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    Kabuto took Food pill (Tsunade was shocked to see that) + Tsunade was rusty = equal match, Kabuto stabbed himself + Tsunade in shock + Kabuto beat Tsunade = unequal match.

    Oro stabbed Tsunade + GR + beat Oro = loss of chakra
    I think Oro might have good offensive abilities, but lack good defensive ones, so the Sharingan will makeup for it (predict enemies' movements/copy jutsus, etc), also it won't hurt to have the MS.
     
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