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Is Sakura's Bayakugo Seal an Asspull?

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by 123fire, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. Corvida

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    u8nike every other medic nin

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    it isn't

    you were the one to claim every 12 year old medic nin apprentice could be parading the seal in the first place, so why not?
    how it was it?

     
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    Where was the implication that Sakura was storing chakra in her Yin seal?
    :catthinks
     
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    Also the people saying that she was Tsunade's student = logically means she inherits her abilities are factually incorrect.

    In context, yes, it would make sense for the teacher to show their student how their abilities work. But that isn't the case for every example.

    Naruto didn't know about Sage Mode. Naruto definitely didn't inherit most of Jiraya's abilities either. Same for Sasuke, although in his case, Orochimaru is a secretive guy.

    It makes sense that Sakura can learn it, and how she earned/learned it. But the narrative never told us she was doing anything for it.

    We never saw her train, struggle, nor did anyone discuss her storing chakra for the Byakugou seal until the very last moment. Ridiculous writing on Kishimoto's part.
     
  4. Corvida

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    of course it does-Kishi hammered us with Sakura and her chakra control, saving and stamina storing for later use since early geninhood
    Let me repeat



    We all knew what she was doing for 2 years and half even when part one was ending
    when Naruto left Sakura was already there



    OMG
    As if Kishi had the panel time for even a miserable flashback longer than a panel except for glorious child of destiny


    war arc


    Gaara arc


    Notice the pattern? Sakura is only allowed brief training glimpses in the spur of the action
     
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    I mean Sakura technically shouldnt even had the Chakra Levels or Quality to pull this shit off considering Tsunade being a Senju and Uzumaki after all and Sakura is a commoner.
     
  6. Corvida

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    Except how many times Sakura´s only excepcionality. along with intelligence, was hammered in part one?
    it´s not chakra levels but perfection in chakra building and control and stamina preservation-she was a natural at recycling



    part one Saskay not only needed to learn chakra control tree climbing with Nardo but even after it.....


    he still failed in reconverting extra chakra into stamina
     
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    Large reserves aren’t a KKG of Senju/Uzumaki, nothing suggest tsunade has those reserves or even the lifeforce, it’s a baseless assumption. boruto doesn’t have Kushinas reserves like naruto does. TsuNade doesn’t have mitos or Hashiramas reserves without the seal
     
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    Jiraya and minato were commoners and had large chakra reserves ,they used SM and shit . So did the raikage and kisame and lots of other people who had tailed beasts levels of chakra and they haven't descended from any of the otsutsuki lines


    Chakra is decided by plot :catshrug
     
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    Like kakashi in the war arc
     
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    Kakashi was an asspull as well (considering his chakra issues) whereas as other ones were introduced with fat pools of chakra except maybe Minato.

    Sakura storing chakra every day for years should have zero chakra to do anything.
     
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    That was literally her issue in the sasori fight, you just don’t really notice it because of her chakra control, she can stretch her chakra out to the last drop,though in the anime she could reverse the chakra flow and replenish her chakra from her stored chakra
     
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    Yes. That shit was never foreshadowed anywhere and no stans I don't give a fuck if she's Tsunade's student :kanyelul.
     
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    it was as soon as Tsunade brought it back in part 2

    Of course you dont, seeing as Tsunade was the only one mastering it
     
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    No. But her seal was plot pull.
     
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    I declare this thread solved by this answer.
    The rule of trios.

    Mito. Hashirama. Madara
    Yin seal and Trans migrants (connected to team 7)
    Kurama. Healing ability. Sharingan


    Tsunade . Orochimaru . Pervert
    Byakugou, Slug. snake. Roads.

    Sakura. Sasuke. Naruto
    Slug. Snake, toad
    Byakugou. Indra. Asura
    Healing ability. Sharingan. Kurama

    Tsunade was created because they needed a character to train Sakura than mirrored both Mito and Hashirama, because she parallels both in terms of ability
     
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  16. Corvida

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    it was planned since Sasuke and Sakura were added to the plot, from chap 4 to war arc




     
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    I’ve seen the light, it was hinted ever since her big forehead was her backstory.

    They made fun of it but look at it now
     
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    Well she was Tsunade's apprentice and was training to get it. So.....
     
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    Tell that to a certain pinkorange fandom, poor them

    Sakura´s charming big billboard forehead was the biggest source of hope since chapter 4

    opps wrong finger



     
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    Not an asspull, but very poor execution.
     
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    corvida every 2 posts :

     
  22. Corvida

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    you forgot to add these


    inept in chakra building


    inept in everything

    Read it ot I´ll post it for a third time
    perhaps you´ll learn what even part one Sakura could do her team mates couldn't so she got the seal
     
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    Kishi had to give her power eitherway. I mean she was tsunades student for past 3 years.
     
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    Byakugo isnt an asspull just an underdeveloped power up that was expected. A real ass pull would be Sakuragetting hirashin
     
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    Actually your right, Sakura did say in one of the earlier chapters that she wished there was a way she could make her forehead more attractive. Let me find the scan, this is the proof they need

     
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    Maybe because Sakura only had one benchmark. :whistle
     
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    What does that have to do with anything I just said?
     
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    You mean Ameno...cough...cough?
     
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    Weren't you arbitrating something along the lines of Naruto and Sasuke not being a carbon copy of their masters of something? Which isn't all the way accurate especially in Sasuke's case, whose actual benchmarks are utilized almost as "previews" for his future power ups. Sakura only having one benchmark would implicate that it's A OK if she essentially became a carbon copy of Tsunade. As Kishi had no other inspiration to draw her power from other than Tsunade.
     
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    An Ass Pull is a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the by dropping a detail in the middle, or near the end of their narrative without or dropping a earlier on.

    In cases where a character suddenly gets a new skill , it's usually explained away as a or , except the audience never saw the character attending the lecture in question, or any prior examples of him or her using, or even training that skill.


    In fiction, a plot hole, plothole or plot error is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot. Such inconsistencies include such things as illogical or impossible events, and statements or events that contradict earlier events in the storyline. The term is more loosely also applied to "loose ends" in a plot – side-lined story elements that remain unresolved by the end of the plot.

    Yes, by the logic of both of these definitions, Sakura's Byakugou is an asspull but let me set the record straight because I'm getting really goddamned tired of how people are using it:

    JUST BECAUSE IT'S SHOWN THAT TEAM 7 ARE THE SANNIN-LITE, DOESN'T SUDDENLY MEAN IT'S OKAY TO JUST GIVE SHIT TO THEM BECAUSE "PARALLELS"!

    Sakura didn't show a damn thing about the fact she had Byakugou despite the NUMEROUS situations she was in that it's use would have saved her ass more often than not. "Muh Parallels" also doesn't stop the fact that neither Naruto nor Sasuke nor the audience should expect them to learn everything because "Muh Parallels" or maybe Naruto and Sasuke should have inherited everything from their reincarnations due to that logic as well and Naruto with his numerous parallels?

    This would be like if Naruto pulled Rasenshuriken out of his ass without showing the training he was doing to imbue wind element into his repertoire... or practically most of the shit Sasuke has done including making a summoning contract with Hawks.

    Sakura learning Byakugou makes sense... by ABC logic but that doesn't mean it makes sense to give it to her offscreen because parallels exist. You guys would make some terrible writers if you honestly believe it's not an asspull.
     
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