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Isaac Netero (Hunter X Hunter) vs Sasori, Deidara, and Tobi

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by Artist, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. Artist

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    All characters are in character and at their best with their own unique weapons, armor, skills, powers, & abilities included no outside help. This fight takes place in the wasteland. Who wins?









     
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    He can beat Sasori and Diedara in some scenarios. Diedara wins if he gets to mid/long range. Sasori wins if he knicks him, but that would be harder.

    Tobi beats him.
     
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    I haven't exactly memorized how all of CT's upgrades go. Before them any of the Naruto trio could win on their own.

    Where does small city Netero come from? We get it from him doing very very minor damage to Meruem over time according to the wiki, but Meruem gets his own durability from surviving the Rose which is a nonsense feat given if all but killed him. That's not tanking the move, we've never treated anything better than that as tanking so I really just can't agree with it. It just shows that he loses to that level of damage.

    What's the best he gets then, some kind of Rage Blast scaling to Youpi with Zero Hand when it's hard to compare either move?

    Regardless, being MHS now helps out Netero, but it doesn't hand him a win. Maybe against Sasori.
     
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    The rose is toxic even if you survive it (which Sasori isn't) you become a carrier infecting anyone you come in contact with.
     
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    Look at the HXH meta thread, Chaos calced one of his attacks in the megaton range too.
     
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    Youpi’s rage blast is small city to city. Lower than rose/rage blast. Range is like 2-10 Mt
     
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    Who updated the wiki?

    Its from Zero Hand burning Meruem.

    EDIT - If they were going to cite individual attacks from Netero's Hyakushiki Kannon, they should be talking about how Netero strikes about as hard as Pitou and Meruem can charge at it as he consistently displays striking force beyond their own forward momentum

    Any matter surviving is a durability feat

    This feels oddly familiar, as if I've had this same post exchange with you before :hmm

    You don't need to "tank" to extrapolate how durable a material is

    We've never what?

    Please, tell the guy that helped sculpt foundation of what we do about what we do now :maybe

    No, it informs us we can extrapolate his durability from any matter having survived at all

    The Rose is well into City level, only half his mass was destroyed and the other half left severely burnt

    You can work backwards from there to reasonably conclude that, if dozens to hundreds of megatons only removed half his mass, even a tiny fraction of that in the lower order megatons would hilariously fail to accomplish the same.

    No, Zero Hand burning Meruem at all is the feat in question

    Not that it's difficult to compare "either move", just that Meruem's own straight durability is the more impressive measuring stick

    Nen mechanics make comparing "either move" hilariously easy though with how the upper limits of durability (like Ken and Ko) are directly tied to the amount of Nen a character can chuck into an attack or another.

    As for the thread itself, I know fuck all about part 2.
     
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    He isn't doing shit to Obito.
     
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    Deidara's C3(?) is double digit megatons iirc @LazyWaka , itll fuck Meruem over hard

    Sasori should be in the single digit megatons at the least, could be higher but im unsure
     
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    We have, but that makes sense since I've never thought that losing half of your body and being unable to do anything counts as durability. I know we've never really applied, but it's not like all of an explosion hits someone being hit by it either, that's just why I think you can't just simply divide it at the very least.

    The wiki said something about Ichi no Te specifically because it made him spit up blood. How do we treat Netero's usage of Zero Hand anyway. It drained him of all of his nen and left him a husk even if he was still alive. Assuredly he can only use it once.

    What puts Sasori that high? Some kind of scaling?
     
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    You're not the first, or last, person to only take a surface level view of what's actually happening on panel/screen/etc between super humans

    That's not a particularly strong reason for anything

    Half the explosion is still half the explosion.

    They need to flesh that out a bit

    You can make the argument Unconsicous/Corpse Pitou was probably not employing Ren (Nen does get stronger with death, but the specific kind of Nen Pitou employed was their Hatsu. Even ignoring that, they were clearly not particularly conscious by the time Gon works to decapitating them, I don't recall Nen being active while unconscious :hmm) and yet still took a number of Jajanken to decapitate/cause them to cease functioning (the body does indeed survive the last Jajanken too)

    Meruem is beyond Pitou, ergo scaling *shrugs*

    But yeah, Ichi no Te did cause Meruem some internal hemorrhaging. Minor damage externally, but still notable to have been accomplished at all.

    Yeah, Zero Hand is definitely a 1 and done attack.
     
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    the Sasuke retrieval arc genin have high end triple digit kilotons to single digit megaton feats, and they cant even be classified as jounin level since it took the sound 4 together to take down worn out tokubetsu jounin
     
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    excuse the double post (im on mobile) but Pitou was most likely using Ren at least, since Terpsichora is a completely battle focused Hatsu that is supposed to bring Pitou past her normal peak, hence the "Dance past your limits" line when she activates it.
     
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    Wait what? Last I checked Youpi's attacks barely reached 24 kt at best how did it shoot up to the megaton range??
     
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    that was the old one. Chaos calc ranged from 125kt to 10 Mt (pulverized through vaporization).
     
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