Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Mibu Clan, Nov 12, 2005.
I personally think that the Oro team dudes riot will win....
i was going to pick number 3 too, cause i know it's going to happen. lol. however i think the 3 kages a puppet master and a legendary sannin would win.
4 vs 5, the 5 win. They're all more or less equal, so even one member can make the difference, thus team Jiraiya wins.
And your poll sucks. I'm tempted to rephrase the options less biased.
The options do suck. There won't be flaming, just fanboyism. There's a difference.
The poll options aren't really neutral
1 pwnz or 2 win barely because of 1 geezer
Itachi and Kisame together die fighting Jiraiya, with a chance of killing him in the process, as stated by Itachi.
This makes this Sasori and Orochimaru vs. Sarutobi, Chiyo, Tsunade, and Yondaime.
As much as I love Sasori and Orochimaru, they don't have a prayer.
You forget that Oro can summon, Yondaime Kazekage, Nidaime and Shjodaime.
Not only that, Kisame can probably beat Tsunade.
Sasori can beat Chiyoba.
Itachi can beat them all except Sandaime.
yondaime would be fighting 3 Kages.
So in an overall, I think that there is no way they can win....Jiraijas team.
I agree too, Jiraiya's team wins.
IN all seriousness though. You can't just say "Oro can summon the past Hokages" unless you wanna give him prep time or something.
Yeah, and it's arguable whether the past Hokages can be summoned from Death god's stomach or not.
But please, let's not start arguing over that here.
atleast change the poll options, it's so biased. jiraiya's team would win, ti's 5 on 4. we don't really know yondaime's techniques, but hiraishin would be a hard jutsu to defend against.
Only with preptime, which wasn't mentioned. Besides, Sarutobi and Yondaime both have Shiki Fuujin, which can be done with Kage Bunshin as well.
If he's so far below Jiraiya's level, I highly doubt he could beat Tsunade.
Agreed, but ultimately not that important.
Itachi said that even if Kisame and himself together attacked Jiraiya, they'd both die. That's a pretty ringing endorsement from himself against that.
Additionally, Tsunade made fun of Kakashi for only losing to Itachi and Kisame, so I doubt she'd lose there either. Yondaime he could perhaps beat, not sure how he could deal with Chiyo's ten puppets as long as she avoids Tsukuyomi, whichi is his only real shot against her.
As prevously mentioned its Sasori and Orochimaru against Sarutobi, Chiyo, Tsunade, and the 4th. No way those two can win.
Chiyo + Tsunade vs. Sasori: If Chiyo + Sakura can beat Sasori then Chiyo + Tsunade can stomp him.
Yondaime vs. Itachi + Kisame: Itachi made it clear that the two of them would die in the process of defeating Jiraiya...against Yondaime they wouldn't last a minute.
Jiraiya vs. Oro: This is going to last a long time...until Tsunade, Chiyo, and Yondaime show up and help Jiraiya decimate Oro.
Team Jiraiya wins easily.
Edit: Oh, didn't see Sarutobi was involved. In that case everyone bows before the awesome might of Sandaime Hokage.
It would just be pathetic if the other Uchiha Cops would support this.
God of Shinobi, The Yellow Flash, Godaime, Perverted Hermit, random old lady.
Succesor & Murderer of the noble Uchiha Clan, Shark, genius puppetuser, Snakeman
Sasori as much as I like him lost to Chiyo and Sakura, giving Chiyo Tsunade who is superior in strength, speed, skill and healing/antidote ability to Sakura would be a bit much, if anyone on Sasori's side gets hit by one of his barrages their screwed, but Tsunade can heal anyone on her side.
Jiraiya would take down Kisame, Kisame would have died in the frog stomach if Itachi wasn't there to bail his ass out.
Is Sarutobi in his prime? If so he'll take down Orochimaru easily, if not Jiraiya can back him up after he finishes with Tsunade or Chiyo/Tsunade could. I'm sure even in old age Sandaime could hold him that long.
As for Itachi, he wouldn't be able to take Yondaime, Yondaime's techniques are far superior to anything we've seen from Itachi. There is no counter for his Hiraishin, a rasengan to the head would instantly kill him, god only knows what other techniques Yondaime has up his sleeve, he's proven himself to be the greatest genius thus far when it comes to creating new techniques.
Even if by some miracle (it would require one) Itachi pushes him to Shiki Fuujin, Yondaime's team will still survive and win.
WTF, why didn't you throw in Deidara for Oro's team too? This is way too unbalanced.
Let's look at some statistics, from my own views:
Itachi = Jiraiya, Itachi >= Tsunade, Itachi > Chiyo, Itachi < Sarutobi, Itachi < Yondaime
Kisame < Jiraiya, Kisame < Tsunade, Kisame >= Chiyo, Kisame < Sarutobi, Kisame < Yondaime
Sasori = Jiraiya, Sasori = Tsunade, Sasori > Chiyo, Sasori < Sarutobi, Sasori < Yondaime
Orochimaru = Jiraiya, Orochimaru >= Tsunade, Orochimaru > Chiyo, Orochimaru < Sarutobi, Orochimaru < Yondaime
Put this together and you have a battle like so:
Chiyo and Tsunade vs. Sasori = dead Sasori, overkill
Jiraiya vs. Orochimaru = mostly even, with Oro possibly having the upper hand
Sarutobi vs. Kisame = dead Kisame, overkill
Yondaime vs. Itachi = dead Itachi
Now, since Sarutobi had the easiest battle by far, he helps Yondaime double team Itachi, if he hasn't already been killed by Yondaime, or he goes and helps Jiraiya kill a worn out Orochimaru. This is so heavily weighted in favor of the good guys. This poll sucks. Add in Deidara and it might be an even battle.
Deidara < Jiraiya, Deidara < Tsunade, Deidara >= Chiyo, Deidara < Sarutobi, Deidara < Yondaime
Stop making da same gay post, Uve been putting this logicless in every itachi vs Jiraiya post, cant u think of somthing new.
Just because Itachi says he's weaker it doesnt mean he is. He said that based on Jiraiya's title, he's never witnessed jiraiya in battle. Did Itachi not get out of the frog stomach that jiraiya said would be impossible. In the end Jiraiya didn't capture Itachi and kisame so he did FAIL. Itachi on the other hand figured out that he didnt need to take naruto at this time.
Oro, said that itachi is stronger than him and he knows this because he was once in the akatsuki and he knows first hand of what Itachi can do.
This is getting of topic n e wayz.
Sarutobi's teal obviously win... gay thread
Why not? Its the absolute truth. And Uchihatards put the same exact "Itachi>Oro" post anytime those two are involved.
Proof? I doubt Jiraiya's reputation exceeds his actual abilities, and even if he'd never seen him he probably knows what he's capable of.
Itachi used up all his chakra to get out of that technique, which Jiraiya used effortlessly. IF this was some ultimate technique of Jiraiya's that caused him to go all out you might have a point, but it was just a random technique that didn't even seem to effect him.
And Itachi says Jiraiya is stronger then him. He doesn't change this statement after witnessing Jiraiya fight either. His statement is pretty absolute, too. If it was simply based on reputation, he wouldn't have stated it so authoritatively.
ye.. mayb ur right BUT
itachi is still COOLER than jiraiya
Peeping tom frog hermit with sandals and spikey hair is sooooo much COOLER than creepy eyes, nail polish, an overglorified poncho with a cloud design on it, and melodrama queen attitude.
Fairly obvious the team of 5 would win. 2 of the sannin, and 3 Hokages vs. 1 of the sannin and a bunch of posers who lost to weaker counterparts on the other team.
Orochimaru will rock BOTH Tsunade AND Jiraiya's ASSES. no contest here.
for the sake of "fairness" we'll say Yondaime can Neutralize Itachi. both are taken out...though i doubt 4th knows anything about the MS.
Chiyo stands NO chance of defeating Sasori alone...as a matter of fact, NOBODY in the opposing team would likely defeat Sasori because they would probably die from poisoning.
Kisame can just sit back and eat popcorn while the edo-tensei's deal with Sarutobi. the 3rd has shown that the ONLY way he can defeat this jutsu is to a) prevent its summoning b) use shiki fuujin to defeat it...if he uses Shiki then he's dead anyways.
the baddies have this, i don't see how they don't.
honestly, most of you people who vote for the "good" murderous ninja's only take things like reputation into account, you don't even look at the quality of jutsu used or even the level of skill displayed.
Show me an instance when "the quality of jutsu used" has made more of a difference than reputation when the person with a higher reputation was NOT handicapped.
Ha. Yeah, sure. At full power, Orochimaru would not be able to beat both Tsunade and Jiraiya. Even if he beats one, he couldn't finish off the other.
Besides, there's no need for it. Sarutobi DEMOLISHES Orochimaru.
He doesn't need to. He knows about Sharingan, and that's all he really needs to avoid: By the time Itachi can hope to activate it, he'll have a Rasengan burrowing into the back of his skull. Too bad Sharingan only works when you can see the eyes of the other person...
If she can do it with Sakura, a cheap bootleg of Tsunade, she can definitely do it with the real deal. There's reasonable proof that Tsunade can beat Sasori alone, with Chiyo it's pretty much a definite.
Because most people don't listen:
EDO TENSEI DOESN'T WORK UNLESS YOU HAVE HAD A LOT OF TIME TO PLAN OUT THE BATTLE BEFORE HAND. IT ISN'T SOMETHING YOU CAN USE ON A WHIM.
Thusly, Kisame fights Jiraiya. And lose.
Quality of Jutsus and Skills displayed?
Yondaime has Rasengan and Hirashin, plus Gamabunta and Shiki Fujin. That's pretty much 3 S Class jutsus in his hands (Rasengan is S class in Yondaime's, just like Sasuke's Chidori is A and Kakashi's Raikiri is S, despite being the exact same thing). He defeated 60 Rock nins ALONE. Itachi could NOT do anything close to that.
Sandaime is the God of the Shinobi. He, at the age of 78, was able to hang in there against two summoned Hokage and his star pupil, and managed to defeat them even while the Hokage were immortal. He can summon the Monkey King, Enma, has shown incredibly powerful jutsus, and has the knowledge of every technique the Leaf has to offer. Orochimaru is outclassed at his own game.
Tsunade can instantly neutralize poisons, has strength that is quite literally unrivalled, and has the ability to become almost invincible in battle. She was able to stick Manda in the mouth with Gama's Knife. If that's not impressive, I dont' know what is.
Chiyo was still able to take one hell of a fight to Sasori, and her 10 puppet technique held off Sasori's 100 puppets very, very well. Plus her Tensei jutsu is amazing.
Jiraiya has numerous summons, has shown incredible jutsus (Rasengan, Hell Swamp, Frog Stomach), and is feared by ninjas like Kisame and Itachi, and is considered the equal of Orochimaru. That alone should tell you something.
Please, shut up. You've managed to top the Uchiha Fanboy force in utter and blatant stupidity.
I don't see how Oro's team has six votes. This is about as one-sided as they come. Oro, Itachi get slaightered. It'll be a massacre.
Well, there are 3 Uchiha Cops, plus Boner... who are the other three (There are 7 votes now)?
Correction, Itachi used up the rest of his chakra witch wasnt all that much considering he already use 2 MS jutsus earliar that day. Anyways Itachi probaly could of broken out of it with another weaker jutsu.
The entire point of the Toad Stomach jutsu is that it can't be broken out of.
Jiraiya takes out Kisame and Itachi, or let's just say that he takes them with him to death. So then we have Sasori and ORo Vs SARUTOBI, Chiyo, TSUNAde and YONDAIME.
Team Sarutobi for the win.
Tsunade underestimated again.
No Kisame wont beat her.
No, Oro wont pwn her and Jiraya, Tsunade can most likely take Oro.
This clearly goes to the Kage team, Im in no doubt. There is just to much in their favor.
Actually Boner is right in that the Edo Tensi is literally unstoppable.
If Edo Tensei isnt allowed, then this is a bit too one-sided in Team Jiraiya's favour.
With Edo-Tensei, it gets too one-sided in Team Oro's favour.
the kage's win, i'd say the trump card is yondaime's hiraishin.