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Ivanka Trump's 'Chinese proverb' tweet mystifies China

Discussion in 'The NF Café' started by mr_shadow, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. mr_shadow Minister of State Security Moderator

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    Ivanka Trump did not accompany her father to Singapore for his summit with Kim Jong Un, but in an apparent show of support, tweeted what she described as a Chinese proverb: "Those who say it can not be done, should not interrupt those doing it."

    That sounds like pearls of wisdom from a Chinese sage - except that many Chinese people do not think it is Chinese.

    China's social media has been abuzz with debate over the origin of the quote, screenshots of which have been widely shared among users on mainland China since Tuesday. Twitter is banned in China.

    One user on Weibo, China's version of Twitter, said the saying originated from Irish playwright George Bernard Shaw. Another claimed it came from American novelist James Baldwin.

    Quote Investigator, an internet website that looks at the origin of quotations, says the expression might have evolved from a comment in a periodical based in Chicago, Illinois, at the turn of the 20th century.

    "Actually Western people like to make up Chinese proverbs, like us, as we Chinese people also make up lots of those," said a diplomatic user on Weibo.

    Ivanka Trump posted the tweet on the eve of the Singapore summit, but did not specifically refer to the meeting. Nor did she say what "it" was.

    President Donald Trump met with North Korean leader Kim on Tuesday in a luxury hotel on a resort island in Singapore, in a summit unimaginable just months ago.

    Trump said he had formed a "very special bond" with Kim, while Kim described the summit as a "a good prelude to peace".

    Kim was previously mocked by Trump as a "little rocket man" on a suicide mission, and the North Korean leader declared that Trump was a "U.S. dotard".

     
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  4. mr_shadow Minister of State Security Moderator

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    The nearest I can think of is:

    不在其位,不媒其政。
    Bu zai qi wei, bu mei qi zheng.

    "If the office be not yours, then neither is its business"

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    Analects 8:14
     
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    "Those who had better smiley should share with those who hadn't"

    Confucious bin Mencius
     
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    If fairness if a Chinese person makes up a saying it is a Chinese saying. :amuse
     
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    "Lead, follow or get out of the way."
    General Patton
     
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    Hope it's not rice again
    -Chinese folk saying
     
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    Going to add in something here. This quote was actually stated by , an Irish playright and political activist.

    She probably said that phrase in order to gain some semblance of support from the Chinese citizens or something; but it seems to have backfired on her unfortunately (or fortunately?)

    But whether she said that exact phrase out of sheer ignorance, or just testing the waters to see how the Chinese would react to her quotes, isn’t exactly clear.

    Meanwhile, here is a list of for your convenience.
     
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  11. Lina Shields It could be better, could be worse, but at least it is not the worst

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    There is a whole fetish dedicated to this.
     
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  13. Lina Shields It could be better, could be worse, but at least it is not the worst

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    Pretty sure it doesn’t smell like roses and strawberries when you experience it the first time ovo
     
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    Ancient Chinese Proverb:

    "Hey now, that's my horse."

    - Anonymous
     
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    One does not simply quote random Chinese proverbs. :ufdup
     
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    How do you think Chinese parents name their kids?

    Spoiler:
    They throw them off the stairs and see what noise they make while they land.
     
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    The joke is actually "throw the silverware down the stairs", because about 1/3 of Chinese syllables end in -ng.

    Ping, ling, ming etc.
     
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    "Hey now, you're a rockstar, get your game on, go play."
    Ancient Chinese Proverb


    "Prelude to peace, the new book by best selling author Tom Clancy"
    I could see it.
     
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    Is this the proverb that inspired "What does the fox say"?
     
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