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James Cameron's 'Avatar' series

Discussion in 'Konoha Theatre' started by Ciupy, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    Might be, but people have been saying such things about Cameron since "Titanic". Until Cameron makes a movie that collapses underneath its own weight, I have to assume the sequels will be good...Maybe not great, but probably not worse than the first one.
     
  2. Mider T Busting in and out of guts

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    Yeah his numbers speak for themselves.
     
  3. ~Gesy~ Freshly drenched in coochie water

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  4. Cardboard Tube Knight Chika is god now.

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    These sound like Fan Fiction titles
     
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  5. Suigetsu Legendary

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    I am inclined to agree
     
  6. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    They sound like they'd be more comfortable as subtitles for the "Avatar" cartoon series, but maybe these movies will grow into them.

    While I think "Avatar" is one of Cameron's weaker efforts, I am a little excited as it sounds like he's going to be exploring different environments. Even if the movies are only 'good' or even subpar, I think they'll be quite the spectacle.
     
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    Wasn't really interested but it sounds like he put a lot thought into this.
     
  8. The World KATTA

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    James has gone full weeb
     
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    As he does with all his projects.
     
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    I like how you like the disney sw crap but you have the audacity to say this about the current king of cinema's most fun movies. What's the excuse for people not liking Avatar? Yet they droll at crap like capeshit.
     
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    Story was basic as fuck.
     
  12. Suigetsu Legendary

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    So? was it a bad one?

    It resonated with countries and continents that where colonized. Like latin america, australia, africa, india, even freaking china. That's what matters. It took a good story and told it with his own style in an outstanding way. That is what a good story teller its supposed to do.
     
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    "Told it in an outstanding way"

    Who knew that all the Pocahontas story was missing to be refreshed anew was mechas, flying lizards and hair sex.:catthinks
     
  14. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    I like "Avatar". I just said it was one of his weaker efforts. Keep in mind that all of James Cameron's movies...save "Piranha 2"...are regarded as classics. "Terminator 1+2", "Aliens", "The Abyss" and even "True Lies" had major impacts on me growing up, so I would argue that they're among the best their genres have to offer.

    "Avatar" just didn't quite reach my expectations. While I think it's good, I think it was more of a masterpiece in hype and spectacle than it was as a movie. I remember seeing it in theaters and having my mind blown...but then watching it on the small-screen, without the 3D, the theater screen, the audience, the epic marketing campaign, it just felt like a normal movie.

    For what it's worth, when I saw "Pocahontas", I thought to myself: "This needs more mechas, flying lizards and hair sex..."
     
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    And us giving a shit about the foreign character, right?
     
  16. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    As a rule, I'm not crazy about these 'White Savior' kinds of movies, although it has nothing to do with the protagonists race...I just don't know what else to call them. They always seem to hit the same beats and have the same cliches that annoy me. I do love "The Last Samurai" though...

    I am assuming the "Avatar" sequels will not be using the same formula, which is another reason I'm excited for them.
     
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    Does James Cameron kind of look like Mike Pence?
     
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    I'm still not used to James Camerom with white hair.
     
  21. Shiba D. Inu I want to be the very best like no one ever was

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    friendly reminder that Mouse now owns this franchise :)
     
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  22. Suigetsu Legendary

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    You will also acquire white hair when you hit a certian age, banana.
     
  23. Suigetsu Legendary

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    Wrong again.

    They own the rights of distribution for the first 4 movies, James Cameron owns the rights of the movies etc. Just like how George Lucas owned starwars but Fox had the distribution rights.
     
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  26. mr_shadow Minister of State Security Moderator

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    The Mouse owns all franchises.
     
  27. Suigetsu Legendary

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    They dont own Avatar, JC does. They just have a distribution deal for it now.
     
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    At this point, that's no different than outright owning it.
     
  29. Suigetsu Legendary

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    No.
    Example: George owned starwars but Fox had a distribution deal. Did that meant Fox was the owner? No right?
    It's the same thing here.
     
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    My point is that the distribution rights combined with ownership of Fox give Disney a significant share of the profits and a huge amount of control over James Cameron's films. At this point, James Cameron is at the mercy of the Mouse.
     
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