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Jiraiya Vs Mu

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Shazam, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    Scenario 2: Jiraiya starts in SM with summons out
     
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    "Motion detecting barrier" squad incoming
     
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    It's a valid argument though. OP where is the location of the fight? Anyways I think Jiraiya can win this. Once he gets into sage mode he will be more than a match for Mu. Jiraiya can dodge the Jinton with Toad Flatness, he can sense him with his Canopy Method Barrier, and once he summons Ma and Pa and gets into sage mode he can go on the offensive kill Mu with a Senjutsu enhanced Oodama Rasengan.
     
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    He can only sense Muu if he passes through the barrier..Even then, iirc Jiraiya failed to sense out the chameleon..He had to resort to Maa's tongue sensing..secondly toad flatness wont grant him instant evasion..Muu can blindside Jiraiya like the Asura Path did..And i highly doubt that Jiraiya would be able to land a rasengan on Muu when even KCM Naruto missed it in his first attempt..He needed to extend his chakra arm and Gaara's sand to propel himself..Muu has great sensory ability..And Muu also stated that his Jinton is faster than KCM Naruto using Rasengan, so technically he could erase Jiraiya even before the guy thinks about landing a rasengan.
     
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    How you gonna blindside Jiraiya if he has Ma and Pa summoned and attached to him? They will sense him and alert Jiraiya. And Jiraiya will have the speed to throw his own jutsu at it or run. He can also catch Mu in his Wild Lion's Mane Jutsu and get him out of the air and then use Goemon on him. If Jiriaya can sense Mu he'll be able to react to him and then catch him. If anything he can use frog song. He could charge it up in his hiding in a toad jutsu, and then spring it out on him after. He won't have any way to avoid it.
     
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    Yeah motion detecting barrier GG.
     
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    Like they did against Asura path?? Sure why not

    At what?? Jinton?? Only another Jinton user can block it..I thought it was made clear in the manga..Moreover I highly doubt Muu would go for a straightforward attack on Jiraiya given his reputation being the null man

    Again good evasive capalities coupled with sensing..Evaded KCM Naruto blindsiding with Rasengan..Lion's mane's only feat is that it caught a crab and Konan (after she was drenched in oil)..He surely isnt catching Muu when the guy would simply be flying around..And even if you give Jiraiya the benefit of the doubt..Cant he just used Kajugan no jutsu and weigh down jiraiya??

    Well this is the only legit way I can see him beating Muu though

    Then why didnt he do it against Pain?? Couldve saved him a lot of trouble..Doesnt work that way thats why..Moreover we dont know about the location..jiraiya had to escape into the pipes which provided him excellent opportunity to pull off the genjutsu..Donno if that is possible here or not
     
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    Sensing Muu is useless since Base Jiraya doesn't have the speed and reflexes to dodge Jinton s Aoe
    So, unless he stars in SM. He's going to be atomised
     
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    Jman wins.
    SM sensing, Berrier sensing, and Shima's tongue
    should be enough to avoid any danger and then retaliate.
     
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    What? Jinton is slow lol

     
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    Its prep times is relatively slow, but unlike Akatsuchi, Jiraya won't be point blank in front of Onoki.
    Furtheremore, both Onoki and Deidara seemed to believe that Jinton could atomize the latter, so...
     
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    Obviously, it will, if it hits him that is. :mjlol
     
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    I mean both of them were quite confident that Deidara can't dodge a frontal Jinton.
     
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    Jiraiya loses. Prep-time is futile, as Jiraiya cannot utilize it efficiently. Jinton take's the edge, plus atomatically distorts the foe. I'd give Muu the edge.
     
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    This is inaccurate. If it instantly disorts them then how did Sasuke survive in it for like 3 seconds. Show me the scans of Jinton working automatically. Also Jiraiya isn't slow either. He has 4.5 speed in the databooks, and in sage mode he'd be even faster. With Ma and Pa summoned they will be able to use Wind Release Dust Cloud to block Mu's vision. With that I doubt Mu would just go on blasting his Jinton recklessly. The wind release dust cloud was seen to be big enough to hide a whole summoning toad. So with the Dust Cloud as a smokescreen, Jiraiya would be able to summon Gamabunta and jump off him to cover the distance between Mu and Jiraiya. At close range Mu would be no match. And If he tried to fly away Shima could use her tounge bind or Jiraiya can use the wild mane jutsu to trap him and finish him off.
     
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    Jinton's Radius have been hyped to be Island-Level(Turtle-Island). The Jutsu speed, was almost faster than Rasengan KCM. I don't see why, dude can't go invisible, and shoot them at the foe, likely.
     
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    That's the outlying example, as all other instances are shown atomizing on contact. Even the cube variation did the same, when later used against Madara.

    Honestly , it being solely for Sasuke's sake makes perfect sense.
     
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    That time it takes to charge is enough for Jiraiya to dodge.

    Its true, Deidara believed that it could atomize him ... if it hit him lol, which was not going to happen.
     
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    This is not true, Akatsuchi stopped Onoki because he could hurt and kill the island, not because he could make it disappear completely.
     
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    He can't since the AoE blast is insanely huge and can be moved in 360°.

    He would've being atomized if Akatsuchi didn't stop Onoki in time.
     
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    No, Jinton beam is only a little bigger than Mu ... that's not a big AoE



    Lol no Deidara and Kabuto escaped quite easily.
     
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    Though, the hype was solid. It was further proven by Muu, who went the extent to say "Numbers won't work on me". Meaning, the Jutsu covers quite the radius, enough for deconstruction of the SA's Division, likely.
     
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    Again no, provide me a feat where Jinton covers an island.
     
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    They never escaped since Onoki never lanuched a Jinton against them.
     
  25. wooly Eullerex BTW, Izanagi is a ninjutsu; chidori is a nin-taijutsu

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    Lets say Jinton was what it was, per feats. How'll Jiraiya evade. Onoki's Jinton deconstructed Madara's Body, who could not evade. Latter was better speedster than Jiraiya.
     
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    They had already escaped before he launched it.
     
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    Nah, since Akatsuchi was the one who prevented Onoki from using it and both Deidara&Onoki tought that Jinton would atomise the latter if launched.
     
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    You mean when Madara let himself be hit? :scust

    Jiraiya dodges it before it's even launched.
     
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    Again Deidara would be atomized IF it hits him ... we see clearly how he escaped before it was released (Kabuto as well).
     
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