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Kakashi needs to be careful against Kabuto in rematch

Discussion in 'House of Uzumaki Archives' started by Sho, Jun 12, 2005.

  1. Sho

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    I just had a realization about when or if the Kakashi/Kabuto rematch happens. Kakashi will no longer have much of an advantage with the Sharingan against Kabuto since Kabuto as well as Oro have been training Sasuke for the past 2 1/2 years. Sasuke who has the 3 tomoe Sharingan. By now, Kabuto must have already figured out all the true strengths and weaknesses of the Sharingan and perhaps made some adjustments. So now, the advantage that Kakashi had over him pre-timeskip probably won't work post-time skip, even though Kabuto was already smart enough not to show him any techniques of his, as well as percieving that Kakashi got tired easily from extended use of the Sharingan, unlike the Uchihas.

    If the Kakashi/Kabuto match happens, Kabuto will definitely be the one to look out for. Not to even mention what would happen if he has a demon like many people are theorizing. Just my observations.
     
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  2. hakke

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    that would be one hell of a match... Kishi HAS to give us that! Kakashi has to win of course... I refuse to see Kabuto smirk over him again.
     
  3. martryn

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    Don't forget that Kakashi has like a butt load of jutsus. He doesn't have to use the sharingan to kick ass.
     
  4. Kyuubi_Xx

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    Yes, Kabuto probably knows a lot about the Sharingan now, but... if Kakashi and Kabuto fought again, I still say Kakashi would win. He has tons of other jutsus he can use - he doesn't necessarily need the Sharingan.
     
  5. narutorulez

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    kakashi will be able to beat kabuto easy and fast.he has tons of jutsus and naruto got eaven pwned by naruto
     
  6. Tourniquet

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    Since Kakashi has the 3 tomoe Sharingan, its hard for Kabuto to overpower that..
     
  7. hakke

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    Im not saying I dont want Kakashi to beat the crap out of Kabuto... but dont underestimate KAbuto... he fought against Godaime and was winning for most of it.
     
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    that's because he sprayed blood all over her when she had the hemophobia. He had an unfair advantage over her.
     
  9. ShounenSuki

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    It'll be a cool fight that's for sure. But I think kakashi will win.
     
  10. Raistlin-sama

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    Well, i think it's pretty obvious that he should be careful, since Kabuto is clearly on his level. And yes Kabuto wil have an advantage becoarse he have studied the sharingan, but i honestly don't think that is whats going to make the diffrence...
     
  11. AssFace

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    Hmm, but let's not forget Kakashi got a huge ass powerboost already, though we don't know about Kabuto. Kabuto is more well balanced than Kakashi in skills, such as healing skills. But Kakashi still has experience advantage, fast as hell, can see Kabuto's movements.

    Also, Tsunade was in fear of blood, and Tsunade is not really a taijutsu type, she is only strong, not fast, and mainly a medical nin.
     
  12. Odin 117

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    a very interesting fight it would be. But i don't think Kabuto will lose, because Oro needs his buddy. someone to talk to you know.
     
  13. mimi_no_migi

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    but in cournter to what u said don't forget that that kabuto was under that jutsu that made his body system messed up and he was only at about 80% of his full ability becuase of it. so i say that the hadicaps were about even. also i think becuase tsunade is just super strong and knows only medical jutsu (thought they are amazing medical jutsu) and kabuto can regnerate cells, he knows some pretty cool medical jutsu but has more taijutsu skill that he stood a chance aginst tsunade i think that she really has no taijutsu skill at all but is just really powerful if you understand what i mean. like popele say at my school just becuase you are strong or you know can bech press alot don't mean that u have hands. (or can fight well for those who don't know that slang)

    i think that kabuto is one of the strongest characters in the naruto universe just bases on what we know right now wether he has a bijuu or not and he is also one of my favorite characters so i think that he could win aginst kakashi and may even have some skills that kakshi can't see throught, counter, or copy. like that one jutsu he used the first time in the hospital to escape from kakshi. don't sleep on Kabuto-kun.
     
  14. Gaara-Kazekage

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    It'll be a battle of wits again + nice jutsus...it's going to be 50-60, with Kakashi on the higher end, of course:)
     
  15. blacklusterseph004

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    I think someone will have to help Kakashi. I don't think he can beat Kabuto by himself. Even by Orochimaru's admission, Kabuto's reasoning skills and mental ability borders on unnatural for someone his age. I think Kabuto's only downside is his arrogance. He himeself admits that he is no good at taijutsu, but I think he has taken that into account if he should come across Kakashi again. Even against Tsunade, he didn't reveal his true strength. Only Sasuke has caught a glimpse of it.
     
  16. Gaara-Kazekage

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    Is the Food Pill thing an anime-only gadget? Most people don't seem to get its significance.
     
  17. Primary_Lotus

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    There's much more to Kakashi than just his Sharingan. Wasn't he a Jounin at 11 (or was it 13?), right before he even got the Sharingan. I can't find the info anywhere right now.
     
  18. mimi_no_migi

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    that is true. he had accomplished many of his amazing feat sin his life before he got the sharingan. lets see before he got the sharingan he already created the chidori, bacame a jounin, and was ecseptionally fast the only thing that he hadn't done yet was become a anbu leader. so i would have to agree that there is much more to kakshi than sharingan he is a very good ninja but also the sam ecould be said about kabuto especially since know one really knows his past. they are both ecseptional ninja an dthe fight would be great to watch to the bitter end. plus kakshi has even admitted to kabuto's skill level being almost if not equal to his own.
     
  19. Primary_Lotus

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    I can't wait to see Kakashi fight with some heart.

    He never really fights seriously. He's said himself that all the people close to him are already dead, but the day that he has to fight to save Naruto, I bet he'll show that he's easily as strong any Hokage or one of the Sannin. I mean, he is the Copy master with nearly 1000 jutsu's if I recall correctly. I wonder if Oro has more?
     
  20. Guillermo

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    I'm thinking Kakashi would win. He told Naruto post-timeskip that he had gotten stronger. Though Kabuto no doubt knows the sharingan inside and out, (hey, that rhymes) he doesn't know Kakashi that well. The only move he really knows about is the chidori, and Kakashi rarely uses it. I will admit Kabuto always thinks three steps ahead, and he does have crazy good healing powers, but Kakashi didn't become an ANBU captain for nothing. There's also the fact that has had tons more experience, seeing is how he was eligible for A-rank missions when he was 13.
     
  21. Cholisose

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    Yeah, Kakashi's amazing even without the sharingan - that was just icing on the cake.

    All Kakashi needs to do is have Kabuto stab his hand, and then Kakashi can take a half hour or so charging up a chidori to use on Kabuto. Easy money!
     
  22. Raistlin-sama

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    I disagree there, there is no way Kakashi could be up to the level of the Hokages, or the legendary sannin, remember how he was pissing his pants, when he stood before Orochimaru?
    Besides why is it that you don't think he was fighting seriously against Zabuza and Itachi?
     
  23. Gaara-Kazekage

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    That was pre-timeskip. He's catching up to them just like the genins are catching up to him, while the Sanins are already at the peak of their power, and in another few years, they'll most likely be on the decline like Sandaime. But I don't think we'll ever get to see that, can only assume.
    Everyone fights seriously in a battle. They just like to give the illusion of not doing so, in a way to hide their emotions, as someone once posted. That said, I think it's more likely that he wasn't training seriously until he almost got killed by Zabuza with the water prision, and later fainted due to lack of stamina.
     
  24. Primary_Lotus

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    Because when Kakashi begins to feel the Kyuubi chakra leaking out of Naruto, he freaks out.

    He says to Zabuza, "I know this goes against your style, but let's stop having fun.", and in 1 move (dog summon), he has Zabuza immobilized, and would have been dead had Haku not stepped into his Raikiri.

    It's easy to see that had Kakashi wanted to, Zabuza would have been dead long before that. Maybe you think he was being serious, but I don't think so. He still had nothing to fight for. He barely had a bond with Team 7 at that point. I'm waiting for the time when it's life or death, because then Kakashi will show his true potential.

    Just like how Naruto was pretty much useless and weak until anger/fear made the Kyuubi come out, and he become ridiculously strong. You don't need a Youma to make unreal power unleash. In moments of extreme importance, people are capable of far exceeding their 'normal' abilities. Not only in cartoons, but in real life.
     
  25. Raistlin-sama

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    Primary Lotus, you still haven't adressed my points about Orochimaru and Itachi...

    I am willing to believe that he wasn't fighting Zabuza seriously, but wasn't he the one who said that people who fails their comrades are even worse then trash? And Naruto and Sasuke was in a rather life-threatening situation...

    Don't get me wrong i'm not saying that Kakashi is weak, i just don't think he is up to the level of The Sannin, and so on...
     
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    IMO Kakashi isn't at the Sannin/Hokage's level. He is a jounin above the normal, with superior skills.

    Kabuto is in or above Kakashi's level and can fight equally against Tsunade.

    Much people think that because he fought Tsunade he is Hokage level. Tsunade is Hokage, yes... but she is a medical specialist, she just has what is needed in a fight and abnormal skills, specially talking about strength (because chakra control) and powerful jutsus (seal, summons). I'm sure she have more to offer...but we haven't see it.

    Looks like Kabuto is a lot of taijutsu and he compliments it with his medical skills. Kakashi would need to use mid-large range jutsus to win without big muscular/internal damage.
     
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    Im sure kakashi havent been training for 3 yrs knowing that the fight WILL happened in the future. :noworry
     
  28. Sho

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    From what it looks like:

    Spoiler:
    Kakashi will be taken out of the current mission in the Grass Country. Will he still face Kabuto?


    Anyways, I still hope Kakashi and Kabuto do battle soon. Kakashi's improved alot but I'm definitely sure that Kabuto's gotten much stronger and probably knows alot about the Sharingan after training with Sasuke for so long.

    Spoiler:
    But the MS is still the wildcard IMO. However, I doubt Kabuto will give him the time to charge it up in battle.
     
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    i hope it happens, my bets on kakashi. i think this would be a fairly even match
     
  30. Chamcham Trigger

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    I still think Naruto should fight him instead. Kakashi only had the connection to Kabuto throught he measurment of power and their brief encounter. Naruto had an actual fight which he lost and was insulted greatly by Kabuto before that. Naruto still needs to prove his worth to him and show that he has what it takes to become Hokage.
     
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