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Kakashi Vs Sasuke

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by .:Solidsnake:., Jan 5, 2005.

who would win in a fight between?:

  1. Kakashi

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  2. Sasuke

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  3. Draw

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  1. .:Solidsnake:. Islam = Peace

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    Well here's an intresting match up, what do u peepz think? :huh

    Well although Kakashi has been teaching Sasuke, has Sasuke surpassed Kakashi yet? Well i'm not too sure about this but would sasuke beat him with his seal thing, i'm not too sure to be honest coz i'm an anime watcher and haven't seen what the seal is like (make sure u put a sign if u have a spoiler!)....

    I voted for draw coz i dont know :confused
     
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  2. Mifune-Dono Lazy Bastard...

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    Poor Sasuke...only 12(13?) years old :sad

    Hmm..actually I hate him, so I don't really care if he dies.
     
  3. Katsura She moves she

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    Kakashi all the way. Even though Sasuke has improved a lot, he's no way near Kakashi's level.

    *Spoilers*
    And as we saw against Naruto, he has the 3-tomoe Sharingan. But still, Kakashi's knowledge about Jutsus, his speed, strength and specially battle experience, are above Sasuke's. A lot... So yeah, theres no way Sasuke could beat Kakashi...
     
  4. .:Solidsnake:. Islam = Peace

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    Well, not many people r replying :(
     
  5. Last of the Uchihas Get your own girls, Jonas!

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    Kakashi will owned Sasuke just as he will owned Naruto.
     
  6. musty New Member

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    kakashi would pawn sasuke as hes only genin and kakashi is jounin.
     
  7. Pandemonium Puppet Engi no Jutsu!

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    (Yes, I returned to NF once again)

    To add some variety to this, I'll make sure my reply is longer than one sentence:

    There is NO WAY IN HELL Sasuke would even be able to lay a hand on Kakashi, regardless of Chidori or whatever. Let's not overlook basic experience. Sakon was able to slam Sasuke flat while he had his first Level Curse Seal active. And Sakon isn't much more than a Chuunin. Kakashi, for that matter, is a high level elite Jounin, with over a thousand techniques, a genius mind, and a great array of personal merits... Against the Uchiha clan's weakest... Would be nice to see Sasuke get his ass kicked once in a while, by the way.
     
  8. Marsala The Ice-Cream Man Cometh

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    Kakashi could beat normal Sasuke pretty decisively. Kakashi could beat Sasuke with the curse seal active with a little trouble. Kakashi would have extreme difficulty fighting Sasuke with the 2nd level of the curse seal active; in fact, none of Kakashi's observed abilities could hurt Sasuke.
    Warning, rest of post has SPOILERS...
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    Including the L2 curse seal, Sasuke has:

    - Superior strength, by a lot. Sasuke was smashed backwards over twenty feet into a massive crater in a statue's ankle by Naruto and was unharmed, then easily swatted Naruto back across the canyon making another crater. Kakashi would be badly injured by a single hit.

    - Superior eyes. Sasuke's eyes were said by Orochimaru to hold more potential than Itachi, so Sasuke's two 3-tomoed Sharingan outclass Kakashi's one 3-tomoed Sharingan he inherited from Obito.

    - Equal or superior speed. Sasuke's normal speed was equal to Rock Lee, who was listed as at the same speed as Kakashi in the Data Book. With the L2 curse seal, Sasuke is likely much faster. He certainly seemed as fast as Naruto in their final attack, who was far faster than Lee at the time.

    - Superior Chidori. Sasuke's new version of Kakashi's one original jutsu is far more powerful than Kakashi's current Chidori. If Sasuke uses the Chidori, Kakashi will have no way to directly counter him.

    Kakashi does have some other abilities that Sasuke currently does not possess, but they will not be enough to balance the massive power of the curse seal. Kakashi's nin-dogs are not nearly strong enough to hold or hurt Sasuke, and the infamous 1000 jutsus that Kakashi has learned were mostly copied by the Sharingan. Using them against another Sharingan wielder will be futile.

    Kakashi's only hope against CSL2 Sasuke is to stay alive by way of superior experience and intelligence and outlast Sasuke, but since Kakashi's Sharingan is as draining as the curse seal, this will be extremely difficult. If Sasuke has not already surpassed Kakashi, he will in a matter of weeks training with Orochimaru.
     
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  9. Mifune-Dono Lazy Bastard...

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    *Spoilers*

    Sasuke's eyes haven't been shown to be superior to Kakashi's yet, because Sasuke just got the 3 tomoe Sharingan and Kakashi has had it for a long time, so he is more experienced using it. I'd bet Sasuke doesn't have any of the Genjutsu abilities related to the Sharingan mastered.

    And Kakashi's Chidori is still probably better than Sasuke's, since according to the data book Kakashi's Raikiri is S Rank and Sasuke's Chidori is A Rank.

    Kakashi has a lot more experience. He wouldn't let the fight be all about brute strength. He would Kage Bushin/Kawarimi all over the place and Sasuke wouldn't know what the hell was going on.
     
  10. .:Solidsnake:. Islam = Peace

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    Thx for the spoilers, they made my day...
     
  11. Katsura She moves she

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    Yeah, Sasuke is Uchiha's weakest... But the only other member is Itachi, and he's stronger than most nins out there, so it's not really an insult being called Uchiha's weakest right now. And plus, you obviously judge their abilities by how you like them.
     
  12. Invisus 私はお前の愚兄である。

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    Sasuke at Cursed Seal Level 2 has more chakra then Kakashi, he's probably faster and physically stronger. With that said, Kakashi would still win, even though Naruto and Sasuke can probably do the best against Jounin's out of the other Genin, Jounin's are without a doubt on a whole 'nother level.
     
  13. Rurouni Mushishi

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    Kakashi has more skill and experience than Sasuke, so I'm betting he'll win. But, CS2 Sasuke may be more of a challenge.
     
  14. IronFist Alchemist 360 BOOTY CLAP!

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    You were naive for thinking otherwise :p

    Anyways,Sasuke can match Kakashi physically,even surpass him in some areas,but CS2,mastered Sharingan...doesn't matter,Kakashi wins.Experience,jutsus blahblah ELITE JOUNIN :cool
     
  15. wherezmytofu Better then you

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    kaksi showed he still has the speed to go between suske and naruto and stop them, he is also the ninja that has coppied over 1000 jutsus...so i dont see him losing :p
     
  16. Vamoo Class Extraordinaire

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    If he's lucky, level 2 Curse Seal might only be enough to get rid of that lazy look off Kakashi's face.
    There's just no way Sasuke can manage to do anything, leave alone land a hit, to his sensei.
     
  17. i hate sazuke alot, so i would like if kakashi kill sazuke. but is quite obvious that sazuke can even touch kakashi in the nevel he is now.
     
  18. Code Zoamelgustar

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    The Battle Starts. Sasuke is dead.
     
  19. xxShikamaruxx Shikamaru FanBoy

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    Wth Kakashi will murder Sasuke in a like a 1 min Flat* stopwatch starts*
     
  20. ramp3 Continue as Planned

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    Kakashi>Sasuke.

    Enought.
     
  21. Ghost- Gone like the wind

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    Are you all forgeting the fight atop the hospital between Sasuke and Naruto? Where Kakashi jumps in out of nowhere, catches *both* of them by the wrist *while* they are using chidori/rasengan, and THROWS THEM AWAY??? Sasuke can not compare to Kakashi, cs2 and 3 tomoe sharingan won't help him agaisnt *the* elite jounin of the leaf.
     
  22. Marsala The Ice-Cream Man Cometh

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    Sasuke wasn't using Chidori correctly then. Instead of charging at maximum speed, he was falling toward the ground at a fairly slow velocity with a predictable trajectory. Plus, Naruto and Sasuke were trying to stop at the moment to avoid annihilating Sakura, plus Sasuke with full Sharingan and CSL2 form is far, far, far more powerful than he was on the roof.

    Nearly every argument I've seen here goes roughly, "OMG KAKASHI SI JOONIN PWNZ SASGAY GENIN FOOL". When we look at the actual abilities of Sasuke with his curse seal versus the demonstrated abilities of Kakashi, the Copy Ninja is quite outmatched, particularly because Sasuke has all of his abilities only stronger. How can Kakashi defeat Sasuke when Sasuke can copy all of his 1000 jutsus and has a better Sharingan and Chidori, not to mention incredible strength and (maybe) even flight?
     
  23. RaitoRyuukashin Banned

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    Because Kakashi can Evade him tell the curse seal erodes his body? And tats something i dont think he would have to resort 2. Sure He can copy a Jutsu....But if hes dead after it hits him dont think it would be much use.... And Sasuke speed is nothing. Kakashi deals with Gai on a daily basis. And we have to think....where does Sasuke get his taijutsu and speed from anyway??? Oh yeah thats right Kakashi trained him.

    So he has an S+ Class raikiri? he knows all of those Jutsus? He has Kakashi superior intellect and not to forget summons. Lets get serious one Water Destruction Blast and its over...if not that some other crazy jutsu he has copied. Sasuke can only stay in Cs2- so long....as soon as he drops it to maintain his body..... one raikiri and its over
     
  24. Marsala The Ice-Cream Man Cometh

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    That would work, if Kakashi can stay ahead of someone faster than him with eyes that predict his every move before his own Sharingan drains away all of his chakra.
    The Sharingan can copy jutsus as they are being performed. Kakashi countered Zabuza's Suiton Dragon Missile with an identical one of his own, and even did the same with Kisame's Suiton Shark Missile which, being Kisame's own shark-shaped variant, Kakashi had almost certainly never seen before. Sasuke can counter all of Kakashi's offensive ninjutsu with an equal copy, genjutsu is pointless against the Sharingan, and weapons and taijutsu won't be able to hurt Sasuke's extremely durable wings.
    Gai doesn't have the Sharingan so he can't use his full speed in combat effectively. And Kakashi's knowledge of Sasuke's style won't help him against Sasuke's overwhelming power. Sasuke blocked Kyuubi Naruto's first punch but was still knocked backwards by the followthrough; the strength gap between Kakashi and CSL2 Sasuke is even larger.
    What else would that black Chidori with enough chakra to be felt miles away be?
    Sasuke won't have to stay in CSL2 very long. Kakashi has no way to counter Sasuke's black Chidori and can't outrun Sasuke. One charge and Kakashi will be impaled by his own original technique.
     
  25. Code Zoamelgustar

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    Kakashi's speed is far superior to Sasuke's... His sharingan is as good. So yes he could just dodge to wait before Sasuke keels over due to the curse seal. or he can just do a massive scale Jounin attack and kill him...
     
  26. RaitoRyuukashin Banned

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    It was only half of wat was felt away

    Where does it say Sasuke was so fast that kakashi couldnt run away? Kage Bunshin, Mizu Bunshin, Kawarimi no jutsu.... i doubt if think sasuke can just run up and stab kakashi
     
  27. Marsala The Ice-Cream Man Cometh

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    Kakashi's speed is listed as equal to Lee's, which Sasuke considerably exceeded with the curse seal. Kakashi won't be able to dodge Sasuke out in the open, and Sasuke's Sharingan will see through Kakashi's attempts to elude Sasuke. Even if Kakashi attacks with a Jounin-level jutsu like Katon Karyuu Endan or Suiton Suiryudan, Sasuke could counter with a copy, dodge with great speed or even just take the attack directly with his powerful wings as a shield.

    True, but it was still a very impressive half that would itself be felt a good distance away. Definitely stronger than Kakashi's supposedly S-rank Raikiri.
    Perhaps not. Kakashi should be able to stay alive against Sasuke as he did against Itachi for some time. But in a direct fight between the two with no place to hide, Kakashi would be in trouble. Kakashi can potentially win but he will be fighting at a disadvantage. This fight is not a normal Jounin-stomping-on-Genin at all.
     
  28. togi-sama master puppeteer

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    I think so to Sasuke is no match for kakashi

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  29. Katsura She moves she

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    Neo, you make it sound like Sasuke is at Kage level.. Kakashi is considered one of the strongest in Konoha..A kid with Cursed Seal won't be able to beat him just like that. Even though Sasuke is strong, Kakashi isn't considered an Elite Jounin for nothing.
     
  30. Vamoo Class Extraordinaire

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    Now this is getting just plain ridiculous...
    You make it seem that one can become the Leaf's top jounin just for no merit at all. Kakashi has completed 38 S rank missions and dispatched criminals which are way more powerful than Sasuke and all his friends combined. Even if Sasuke was faster (which he isn't) and had a better Sharingan (which he doesn't), Kakashi's experience and jutsu knowledge would crush him like nothing.
     
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