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Kingdom Chapter 436

Discussion in 'Kingdom' started by LordPerucho, Jun 24, 2015.

  1. LordPerucho

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    Hagoromo's tale of his sons.

    Holy shit I didnt expect Sei to get rid of the kids for the sake of the country.
     
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  2. Akatora

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    makes sense.

    I think you might have forgotten which world this is, this is a world where they kill off entire families for having 1 traitor among them.

    Aka if you're a traitor your life is forfit, your wifes life is forfit, your children and childrens childrens life is forfit and your parents life is forfit.

    The queen is a traitor, granted he wouldn't kill himself, but going by the same rules the children must die. Add their claim to it and it's even mroe urgent.
     
  3. Zoro

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    Sei has some fine character development as a King to go through with his decision, I like it.
     
  4. Canute87

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    Well it does make sense.
    Find it funny she is calling him heartless when she's the reason for her predicament.
     
  5. sadino

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    Not digging this development, you can't talk about ideals and all that shitty bullshit about human's nature is light, the proceed to order the execution of your toddler half brothers.

    It makes sense on the context, but still ,Sei's even more ruined for me now, at least keep the cheesyness consistent if you're not going for hystorical accuracy.
     
  6. Punk Zebra

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    I'm stuck if he should spare her ass.
     
  7. Canute87

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    Agreed 100%. :nod

    And while we are at the whole idea of cheesy consistency let us hope Sei follows through with his philosophy on the battlefield.

    He should be very clear letting his soldiers know that they need to spend time trying to bring out the light nature of the men in front of them trying to take their heads off. Lay down arms if need be. :thumbs
     
  8. Morglay

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    Sei knows it's a jungle out there. Gotta cut through some foliage to get that light shining down. :maybe
     
  9. Akatora

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    I suppose an alternative could be turning them into eunuchs.
     
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    I will dislike Sei from now if he really killed those two children.
    He spared his brother despite his treachery. I don't care for reasons. It proves that exceptions can be made if he wants.
    Sei can shred his mother and her lover to pieces for all I care but killing children is line which shouldn't be crossed by someone who gives speech on 'light'.
    He can banish them privately and tell the world that he killed them if he wants to instill fear in his enemy.
    What difference is in him and Queen Mother otherwise? Both became selfish and heartless for their own good. He doesn't deserve to be a King if two kids (who doesn't even have previous King's blood in them) threaten his throne.
     
  11. Akatora

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    Well his decission isn't wrong for his ambition of placing the realm infront of all else, it's not wrong to kill off the children.
    The issue is: "is he a king who'd sacrifice everything for the realm?" No he isn't
    that is the real issue

    Spoiler:
    Seeking immortallity is the obvious point of placing self above the realm
     
  12. Hyperion1O1

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    "Please spare my children"

    >No

    "Fuck you, I should just have aborted you"


    I can't stop laughing

    @to posters hating on the decision

    I'll agree with Sei on this one. He wants his kid to become the next king, having those 2 exist will undermine that plan. Cold and hard truth, this is what ancient kingdoms were; kill the children so no one has the claim to the throne. This also acts as a reminder to everyone about the punishment for betraying the king.


    But who knows: Shin might be the one tasked with killing the children and he gets a change of heart and hides them instead :zaru
     
  13. Donquixote Doflamingo

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    Perhaps the Author is going to show Sei true colors.

    In history he was quite the crazy ^ (use bro).
     
  14. sadino

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    Pretty sure the kids have ZERO worth of succeding him.They aren't late King Sho's relatives at all.

    I hope the author goes for a "he secretely spared them" ending.
     
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    Anyone think Mouten one ups both Ouhon and Shin by being promoted to General first?:hmm
     
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    They are the Queen's children so pretty sure they have some claim. Maybe not that much but still a claim.


    I want him to kill the children so I can see how far he wants to achieve his goals.
     
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    After this rebellion arc I doubt it. Hi Shin Unit basically soloed rebellion and Shin saved Seis wife and kid, defeated enemy general and etc.
     
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    You're forgetting something.

    The kids might not be directly related to sei's father, but they are the children of the queen and king of Ai.
    Which could be someone rebels would form around.
     
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    If he is smart he'll kill them. It is amazing how soft people are now days. Back in their day these rulers had to make these tough decisions. If he doesn't kill them they can grow one day to destroy him, his own children and his empire. It's the tough decision but it's the right one.

    His mother has only herself to blame.


    I literally laughed when she was saying they were the only thing she has left; as if her own son wasn't the king.
     
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    I agree with the Sei supporters. Even if he doesn't out right kill them, they need to be exiled or dealt with or else they'll become threats later on.

    And it's been awhile since I hated a character as much as Queen mother
     
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    The dude has sworn to pillage burn and plunder all of China, bringing mass rape in with it like every medieval war. People are tots cool with it.

    He wants to execute 4 people to prevent future war: Oh noes, Sei is such a hypocrite.


    He was always a hypocrite. He is insane and hears voices. This is not inconsistent writing people.

    I hope he finds tiny ponies to quarter the children alongside their dad.

    Hell, Shin looks forward to killing people to rise through the ranks faster, let us not pretend the manga has any pretentions towards the worth of human life during war.
     
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    Thank you Thank you Thank you.

    My thoughts exactly.

    For fuck's sake.....people don't forget this manga is 70% about killing.
    Kill 'em children. Kids are easily manipulated. Who is to say another one won't try to resurrect the State of AI in the future with those kids?

    He has bigger things to fry then deal with more family bullshit.
     
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    All things considered.

    Sei should kill the children in case of crisis of rebel in the future.
     
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    It's inconsistent because of the cheese.The author really wants to pull like all of this is justified and Sei isn't an hypocrite/tyrant.

    You can't act like it never happened(author trying to pass this as "righteous") just because you agree with him this time.

    Second, everyone knows that entire state was one of Ryo's toys.
    -Pretty sure you gotta be the King relative to have succession rights.
    -There will be no more state of Ai,it also lasted a pitiful time to have anyone following any legacy it had.

    The kids are as much of a threat as the villagers killed during the siege. This is 100% setting an example+ just doing it to despise the bitch mother.

    So much for "Human Nature is Light"+ many other bullshit speeches. <-- This is the problem.
     
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    Bitch mother was also going to kill sei's child.

    Please remember that shit.
     
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    Also, he is going to turn their daddy inside out. Chances of them not wanting to kill him are slim. Hell, I would want to get revenge if someony pulled my fathers guts out.
     
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