Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Mouten, Oct 9, 2006.
Who would win?
1st Hokage ofcurse...
I guess Kisame would win, but he should go all out and be careful.
Samehada can cut wood and steal the opponent chakra.
Powerful water and taijutsu would destroy the 1st Hokage.
Kisame is really powerful, he made Gai cough blood.
....Look why don't you both go a topic down an you'll see" Itachi vs. 1st Hokage" an read this;
So you see the 1st wasn't enyone he was the "1st!"Hokage and one of the strongest of all time.
Kisame is powerfull but i guess he'd lose to Lee and Gai alone.
I don't feel Kisame is on the same level as a Hokage. I also don't feel Kisame is on the same level as the other Akatsuki members. The First Hokage would probobly win.
Come on people, give an arguments, don't say Shodai will win just because he's a Hokage. Explain your reasons. I'm not saying Kisame is more powerful, in fact I consider them both very powerful (and I don't know who'd win), but explain why do you think Shodai wins.
Secondly, don't quote incorrect quote like this one:
And how do you know that? As far as we know, ONE Amaterasu will burn through anything, and ONE Tsukuyomi will affect (and kill if Itachi wants) anyone. It's nowhere stated Shodai is exception.
Ok, Yamato can use motukon jutsu, which gives him certain advantages, but he isn't uber-ninja with unbelievable abilities. I consider him to be a little below Kakashi and Gai level.
Stop speculations about Uchiha Madara. Oh yes, he (or she) is probably lived during the reign of Shodai and fighted him, and probably had MS. He also might have been a previous host of Kyuubi, and there is a probability he betrayed Konoha and joined Rock village during the war, and he could be Oro's dad.
All we actually know about him that he has more evil chakra than Kyuubi.
Don't overvalue Shaodai and/or understimate Kisame. And, as I previously said, one Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi is enough.
Not really. Kurenai's genjutsu is B level and Complete darkness is A level. Plus, Zabuza's mist worked on Kakashi because it's a ninjutsu, not genjutsu. The mist really existed, it's not like Zabuza decieved Kakashi's eyes and "convinced" them mist exists (which would genjutsu do).
wtf this is dumbest thread ever. kisame wins of course, look, there's so many things in his favor.
All that wood which the 1st can summon? That aint shit compared to the beastly wood which Kisame can whip out of his pants at any time.
Darkness jutsu? WTF, that's even more in Kisame's favor. Kisame is WAY more active in the night time (if you know what I mean), when the sun sets, he's at the top of his game! You know how things go bump in the night? Well, Kisame does a LOT of bumping in the night (if you know what I mean). while the 1st could only slap away at the 3rd without seriously injuring him, what a pansy bitch the 1st is.
Okay sure, the 1st created Leaf Village.... but Kisame SIRED an entire village (it's called the Hidden Village of Illegitimate Children, it's new, newer than even Sound Vaillge). Beat that, the 1st.
hokage of course.this battle is just like a pokemon battle.leaf pwns water.
Mah...im not comenting this enymore cose enryone has his own idea.The simple thing is tha Itachi whould have lost ageins the fors hokage,and Kisam 100%.(Wather ageinst wood,comon...).The orginal jutsus taht the 1st possest where..(and belive me) 90%better then this waht yamato has to bet.
Now Think before you say no thats not true.
So true... so true...
Mokuton can handle Kisame's tsunamis.
The Samehada would cut mokuton trees like butter. Kisame can't be trapped this way, it's impossible with Samehada as his sword. And it would eat the 1st Hokage's chakra if Kisame can get close enough. Kisame was faster and more powerful than taijutsu genius Gai, that means the 1st is screwed in close combat. The only way to make trouble for Kisame would be darkness genjutsu.
DUDE!!Look wather canot beat somthing like wood..ecelipse was right..I know youre a Kisame fan..and belive me im more a Kisame fan then hokage fan.
Samehada don't cut. It shaves. Good for a gardener but not for a ninja.
Anywayz I say the 1st as the most ppl here i guess...
It cut just as well. Kisame decided to cut Naruto's leg off.
The moment you can rely on a poll, the sky is falling and kill us all.
And you are comparing a 12 years kid leg with a tree that can break a HUGE doton wall.
Even I can chop off that leg with my Gillette.
The Enma pole was able to break the mokuton bind in one sweeping move.
Hey, it was not even a blade! Yet you think Samehade can't cut it?
Nope, it would take a very sharp blade to chop off a human leg.
Samehada shave with shark skin, but it is also used to cut.
Your first mistake was to assume Samehada can only shave.
Your second mistake was not to listen to me.
Shodai traps him in Bringer of Darkness then precedes to choke him to death with some branches. 1st Hokage ftw
And you think Kisame just let it happen like that?
I guess he seems too shy to fight back.
What exactly is he going to do about it? Can Fish Man fight blind? Better yet, fight blind while being ensnared in a bunch of trees?
Zabuza could fight in thick mist. Kisame is not dead yet just being caught in a genjutsu. If he cut 1st Hokage with Samehade he could track the smell of blood in the darkness, he's a shark. And Samehada would save him from a bunch of trees.
Topics like these are retarded. We have barely seen any of the moves of these two ninja. It's not like we can automatically speculate who is going to win. Until we see some sort of arc that describes the 1st hokage's past, I cannot find a suitable winner of the fight.
Kisame can do none of things you mentioned. Zabuza was the expert of silent killing not Kisame. And the Samaheda isn't meant to cut but to shave, it won't help him escape.
kisame can't win. i dont think he's on the same lvl as the 1st