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Kisame vs Hidan and Kakuzu

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by MawDezrtarsh22, Oct 13, 2018.

  1. MawDezrtarsh22 Read my name....slowly

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  2. Ishmael The name itself is power.

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    Duo mid diffs, numbers gain ends up being to much.
     
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    Kakuzu sends in Hidan and his scythe which aren't bothered by Samehada and hits Kakuzu from behind.
     
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  4. MawDezrtarsh22 Read my name....slowly

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    Then how do you explain A3 being hyped to face down 10000 Shinobi?

    Numbers aren't a huge deal when the gap in power is significant enough.
     
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    Hidan & Kakuzu fodderstomps.
     
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    A3 was extremely powerful and fit to do that, he took on gyūki and stalemated, wasn't hype either that was a feat.

    I don't see why you stated the second part the raikage fought fodder, so of course the power gap would be large. That's not the same in kisame situation, he's not fighting fodder.
     
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    Kakuzu vs Kisame is already a tough match that i can see Kakuzu winning, with Hidan here he wins 100% of the times.
     
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  8. wooly Eullerex BTW, Izanagi is a ninjutsu; chidori is a nin-taijutsu

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    Waterdome gg.
     
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  10. Ishmael The name itself is power.

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    When do you think he'll use it? Im curious.
     
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    From the start really. There's nothing these two can do to stop him.
     
  12. Ishmael The name itself is power.

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    That's out of character for kisame, water dome from the start of a match?, a weaker one at that. The first time we witnessed him use it, the true reason was because bee caved his chest in and he was about to get beat severely.
     
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    1. Kakuzu detaches his arm and takes Hidan's scythe from him
    2. As the masks are drawing Kisame's attention, the threaded arm knicks Kisame drawing blood
    3. The arm quickly reattaches to Kakuzu and Hidan does the rest far away from Kisame's waterdome
    GG
     
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    OP doesn't state they're IC though. So we have no reason to assume he wouldn't go for a surefire win move from the jump.

    Kisame is also the strongest Swordsman of the Mist, so in CQC he'd beat either pf these two. Kakuzu's elements get absorbed, and Hidan gets blown away by any suiton jutsu.
     
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    Kisame gets scratched early, then

    1) Hidan starts torturting with him => Kisame uses waterdome.

    2) Hidan goes for fatal injury => Kisame heals and uses waterdome.

    Afterwhich its a 1v1 against Kisame that he wins.

    If lighting under water worked against merged Kisame, Bee would of used it. He didnt because he already established that he couls absorb any ambient ninjutsu approaching him.

    Kakuzu's other attacks pale compared to water dome.

    Kisame can likely drain Kakuzu's chakra by piercing his tentacle.

    Samehada can drain chakra on contact as shown against Bee in turtle island, so domu doesn't help.

    Kakuzu's masks and himself are greatly outsped underwater. They get blitzed.
     
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    But underwater Kisame is tiers above these two in speed, and waterdome follows him, so Kakuzu can't stop him from keeping Hidan shredded. Not to mention water prison.
     
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    In terms of strength outside of the swords yeah. Strongest would be mangetsu, having mastered the swords his skill should put him over> in terms of kenjutsu.


    You see him absorbing multiple elements being spammed at him from different directions? ,Plus dealing with hidan and kakazu attacking?

    Eh, I'll concede to this point simply because of him not being in character.
     
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    Null, if hidan stabs the heart or brain, kisame is not healing and is going down, those are two vital points of the body that are truly needed.
     
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    Futon atsugai upon the initial release of water dome should not only interrupt it but clear up the water being spewed.

    Mask don't get caught underwater since they have flight.
     
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    Kisame had his chest, stomach and heart blown apart, and was still able to have a conversation and Regen.

    The notion that Kisame dies due to heart damage is baseless, and contradicted by the manga.
     
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    Ponta, who's about equal to Gamabunta's head in size, is dwarfed by Waterdome. Futon atsugau isn't comparable, or capable of stopping it.

    They have to stay underwater to be useful this fight, otherwise Kakuzu's main body is getting blitzed and raped.
     
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    Kisame already survived having his heart destroyed. Hidan targeting the head is out of character
     
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    I notice u didn't tackle the injury to the brain CNS portion
     
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    Don't believe his heart was blown apart, but I'll play your game. :oldshrug

    He was able to have a conversation because of bee not finishing him, letting and allowing to to continue speaking. Him being allowed to Regen as well, bee didn't move to keep attacking and killing kisame and that's that.

    I noticed you didn't touch on the brain part, you agree that he indefinitely dies then?

    Questionable, from the scans we saw everything extremely bruised and caved in, in the mid to lower parts of his chest. There was nothibg further up given to us.

    Another thing it is not , we know how hidans technique works and if the damage is done to him, it's to his Opponent as well.

    Even if the attack doesn't kill him, it leaves him vulnerable and in a state of needing to Regen, open for attack.
     
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    And so is kisame spewing water dome out the start of the fight but as @Lord Valgaav pointed out there's no statement in op saying they're in character.
     
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    Because Hidan stabbing himself in face/brain is wildly OOC, as shown in canon ANY time he goes for a fatal shot he goes for the heart, ALWAYS.

    And if Kisames brain is totally destroyed he dies, however I believe he could Regen anything short of total destruction.
     
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    Why the fuck is the NBD so shit now we have to specify that people are in character?

    NBD THREADS HAVE CHARACTERS IN CHARACTER UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED.
     
  28. Ishmael The name itself is power.

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    Yes obviously once it's fully out and that's not what I was getting at.

    I'm saying it took time for water dome to fully come about and him to spew it out, futon atsugai fired and aimed at it upon release will evaporate it. Potentially hurting kisame as well due to the stationary position he was in as well.

    Which is fine to an immortal being , once he feels he's beaten kakuzu and hidan and water dome goes down. He trades out a heart and the fight begins once more.
     
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    Kisame going WD off the bat isn't exceptionally OOC, especially against 2 whom he KNOWS are immortal to a degree, referring to them as the zombie combo.

    He went Bakusui Shoha when outnumbered IMMEDIATELY against Gai, whom he disliked to begin with

    There's no reason he won't give the same credit to 2 fellow Akatsuki, all of whom are powerful.
     
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    You got a little hot under the collar over something so simple? Lol.
     
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