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Kisame vs Sasori?

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Orochimaru op, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. Orochimaru op

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    Battlefield is where Sasuke fought Deidara

    Knowledge is manga

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    Fight!
     
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    Kisame going to turn the place into a ocean a lot faster than sasori can get the third out and gather enough iron sand to be a threat. And iirc Water+Iron= rust. So sasori is really fighting on a time limit.
     
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    if Kisame attempts CQC, he'll get poisoned easily by Hiruko's left arm.

    Sasori walls Suiton with Iron Sand, and spams Satetsu Shigure, which Kisame can't defend nor dodge easily.
    Satetsu Shigure will definitely defeat Kisame.

    If Kisame traps Sasori inside waterdome, the puppets and the Iron Sand will poison the water imemdiately and Kisame will be swimming inside poisoned water and die.

    Sasori doesn't need 100 Puppets here, tbh. Only Hiruko to poison Kisame and the 3rd to destroy him.
     
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    Daikodan? Samehada eats the chakra in the iron sand so it’s useless?
     
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    The IS moves thanks to sandaime's magnetic field, generated by his chakra. It's not imbued with chakra like Gaara's.
    Also, before it comes down to the IS, he still has no way to deal with Hiruko's senbons. If you think about it, Sasori is a perfect opponent for Kisame, couse Sasori rarely uses chakra on his weapons, he uses poison instead, and Kisame can't absorb it.
     
  6. Orochimaru op

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    AOE water?

    Scans? I didn’t know this? How exactly does this jutsu work?
     
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    Sasori wins .

    posion is a winner & so is iron sand damage

    waterdome helps sasori more than kisame as poison can spread easier & shunshin is no longer available

    daikodan is useless since sand is not an elemental conjuring, but physical tool
     
  8. Charmed

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    he needs handsigns to do that, he needs to deflect the senbons coming from all angles at once.
    Kisame has been scratched in all his fights always and at the beginning of the battle, too!
    What makes you think Sasori's senbons won't get him poisoned?

    Even shinobi like Asuma, and that other Jounin in turtle Island could!

    So Sasori can ensure the win with Hiruko, he only needs Sandaime to crush Kisame.
    Chiyo says that: Sandaime was born with a very powerful chakra that generated magnetic fields, and this allowed him to control the Iron Sand, copying the previous Shukaku host, and the way he controlled desert sand.

    Once the IS user is K.O (or destroyed in the puppet's case) the magnetic field disappears, and the IS structures crumble.

    In conclusion, if Kisame wants to get rid of the IS, he needs to destroy the 3rd Kazekage, but he doesn't have anything to get past the IS, or destroy Sasori first, but he mustn't get near the puppet, or else he's risking to get poisoned.
     
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    I remember him using a single handseal for a giant water attack. Also, Chico was able to dodge and control Sakura to dodge and while she isn’t slow she is a puppet master and it was established that the puppet master themselves are not as fast on average. If chino can dodge, it’s likely Kisame can for long enough to weave any signs.

    So by samehada existing would he be eating at the chakra around them controlling the magnetic field?
     
  10. Charmed

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    won't cover all angles unfortunately.

    Except Chiyo is not your average Puppet Master. She was the leader of all puppet masters in Suna. She was Prime Hanzo's rival, who's a very fast and powerful opponent, so Chiyo is bot fast and powerful.

    Of course Chiyo could dodge all those attacks because she's a medical ninja and an expeience puppet master, she doesn't need to use handsigns either.

    I dunno who told you Puppet Masters are slow, they're actually deadly fast, it's just that their weakness is CQC couse they're busy controlling their puppets, but the Puppet Masters know that, and that's why you usully see they always have control over the fights they're involved in. Like Sakura and Chiyo rarely could get close to Sasori. Puppets are more than enough to keep a Puppet Master's opponent at bay and far away from them.

    Chiyo was surprised about Sasori's puppets speed, even though she was used to speedsters like Hanzo.

    Yes but Kisame is not a character that dodges, he usually tanks, proof of this is how he always gets scratched at the beginning of his fights. Chiyo is faster than Kisame alright, she's also much more experienced and far more evasive.


    the magentic field is either inside the kazekage puppet or inside the Satetsu structures or both x'D
    So either way, it's not easy to eat that chakra, especially while dealing with attacks from all angles. In the end Sasori needs 1 hit, and Kisame needs to work his way through Hiruko, 3rd Kazekage, and an army of Puppets, all that,w/o even getting scratched once; that's very hard to believe.
     
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    Water washes poison away.

    Five Shark Feeding Frenzy GG
     
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    lol, wait, Kisame is drinking his water now?

    what makes people say Sasori poison Kisames water makes him get poisoned?

    Kisame takes the oxygen from his water through his gills at most, and Sasoris poison get to get into your bloodstream, so until Kisame doesnt cut himself, he is fine in poisonous water.. even if he does, makes you wonder how much poison would get into him if its watered that much. he creates like a lot of water compared to Sasoris poison. not to mention he can stay on top of the water have he decide, and just use tsunami and water sharks and water clones, and big chakra eating shark and all that crap surfing on top without even going underwater.

    Id say samehada would eat up Sasoris chakra strings fine, and he has more than enough destructive power to wreak a lot of his puppets.

    Itd be a clusterfuck and all depends on what route they go, for example Kisame can start with big aoe water attacks while staying away, or try to fuse with Samehada and sink Sasori, its hard to determine, but Id say water attacks works against Sasori if anything, washing away the poison, and Kisame should be able to deal with his puppets.. only real threat is iron sand.

    Id give it to Kisame like 6-7 times out of 10.
     
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    If Kisame goes into CQC early on, it's over for him

    I do assume he will avoid CQC against a puppeteer though, so he is going to be summoning lake as his first move here

    Sasori will be forced to go 3rd Kazekage then, and with Iron Sand's AOE attacks it's hard to imagine Kisame not getting scratched sooner or later

    Waterdome is a bad idea since Sasori doesn't breathe and can cut Kisame in half with his pressurised water / scorpion rope when Kisame gets close

    Daikodan / 1k sharks get blocked with Iron Sand or 100 puppets meatshield

    Eventually Sasori is landing a hit on here

    Sasori mid diffs
     
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    I dunno, I'm not a biologist, but I was picturing a fish swimming in poisoned water, so I think the fish's gonna die quickly. I could be wrong though.


    wouldn't be so sure about it.


    think about it. Even a poisoned senbon which has little amounts of poison (just a scratch) will kill you, imagine having to swim inside gallons and gallons of poison! I wouldn't be surprised if Kisame died immediately with so much poison.

    Besides, Kisame will use waterdome on Sasori, not knowing the Iron Sand and Sasori himself are poisoned with gallons of poison!
    This is Kisame's downfall, and all Sasori has to do is let himself get caught inside waterdome.
     
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    I doubt this would end up in a waterdome but I found a few things you said funny.

    Kisame is much faster in the dome.. why would he need the standard shunshin ? And is there a reason to believe he can't create currents within the dome to keep the poison away?

    On another note: can Sasori even drown?
     
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    No of course not

    He does not have lungs or organs that need oxygen

    He just has a nucleus
     
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    Water isn’t exactly immune to poison, they both will die
     
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    Kisame takes this if he doesn't waste any time. Since he's messing with poison he's going to have to act fast. Fusing with samehada then doing the water prison jutsu is the best he got. Since he's faster in water that will be an advantage. If he acts dumb and doesn't do that he's succumbing to poison
     
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    Kisame wins mid diff at worst. Sasori isn't tagging the dude with anything considering he could react to V1 bee who is much faster than hebi sauce. His water style can also wash the poison off of all sasori's weapons and he can flood the battlefield with a lake or drown the battlefield in waterdome and by that point sasori is helpless since he is not winning a underwater fight with kisame.
     
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    funny indeed :tupac
    shunshin for kisames defensive purposes yes, noone is faster on water than on land :zaru

    lol at creating currents/waterbending around (visible??)poison clouds while simultaneously trying to avoid being disemboweled or pinched in half by satetsu kaihou variants as well as maintaining the sameodori no jutsu
    cool fanfic tho

    on another note: inb4 kisame combines sameodori+five feeding sharks+kuchiyose: sharks + Sui'ton: daikodan at once.
    its gets repeated, regularly, for years it has & is usually ignored & unchallenged, if not(or is) accepted
     
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    I'm pretty sure Kisame is faster in the water than on land actually, merged with Samehada of course. And Kisame can move the waterdome, in fact it moves with him. There's obviously going to be currents inside. Unless it was secretly a dome of jelly instead?
     
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    Unless Samehada can eat poison Kisame is in trouble.

    He wont have an antidote unlike Sakura so if he gets scratched or inhales poiusonous gas he is doomed.

    If Kisame uses waterdome Sasori wont get drown. He is a puppet and he might poison the water to get Kisame that way.

    Can Iron Sand be absorbed btw? Madara couldnt absorb Gaaras sand. Maybe sand is not prone to absorbtion. Same with chakra made rocks.
     
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    Samehada is not a magical tool against poison. Kisame is the kind of person to tank some attacks (thinking Samehada will save him).

    So he's going be touch by the Satetsu or another vicious attack and he's not going to understand what happen to him. It'll happen before he submerges Sasori with his Suitons (and I think Sasori can protect himself from that with the third one's puppet. If he can levitate and create a shield like Gaara... it is the minimum required coming from the most powerful Kazekage).

    Sasori low-mid diff.
     
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    Hiruko Puppet’s projectiles get washed away with Suiton, and Kisame can use the cover of some suiton bunshin or a huge water projectile to escape underground with Doton and then ambush Sasori from behind and smash his puppet armour with his enormous strength.

    If he manages to escape and use Sandaime Kazekage Puppet, then Kisame uses Daikōdan and ends it there and then the moment he sees Iron Sand.
     
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    Kisame could prolly wash away the poison on Sasori's weapons thus taking away almost everything that makes Sasori dangerous to Kisame. With Samehada Kisame can absorb the chakra threads of any puppet that comes near him so unless Sasori is using a Human puppet then it's gonna get stopped and likely destroyed once it gets close. It's just a matter of can Kisame's Suitons take out the Sandaime Kazekage/Sasori first or would he get overwhelmed by Satetsu as Sasori keeps getting more as time goes on. I'd say it could go either way depending on how the battle plays out but I'd slightly lean towards Sasori
     
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    nope, couse it's iron, not chakra.
    Samehada absorbs anything made of chakra. That's why I say Sasori is the perfect counter, couse Sasori rarely uses chakra based attacks I.E. Elements.
     
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    Depends on exactly how much Kisame knows about Sasori.

    If he knows that a single scratch is enough to at least seriously impair his ability to move, as I suspect Kisame's immense physicality may help him resist Sasori's poison, he'll play it smart and fight with elemental warfare. There's not much Sasori can do about that, especially since he needs time to collect a meaningful amount of iron sand.

    If he's only vaguely aware that Sasori uses poison⁠—which I think is more likely, given how secretive Sasori was⁠—he probably loses fairly quickly. Kisame isn't a careful fighter, nor is he particularly fast, so I can easily see him not minding Hiruko's traps on the basis of believing his constitution will keep him safe from either the poison or the traps themselves and falling prey to that.

    Either way, I don't think it'd be a very long fight.

    With regards to poison in water: it'd be too diluted to affect Kisame. He'd also be able to see where the poison has spread in the water, so avoiding it would be as simple as just... not swimming through those areas.
     
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