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KK's arsenal versus Naruto & Sasuke's

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by Zef, May 20, 2020.

  1. Zef

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    KK has shown more variety in his fights against Team 7 and Jigen then Naruto & Sasuke have in like the 6 years since Naruto ended.
    :ssmith


    Now Naruto's skillset has disappointed me for years so I don't care but what they've done with Sasuke.....it hurts.
    :wow

    Its like all he knows as an adult is Ameno, Chidori, and Susano'o....then I look at this chapter, and see KK use like 5 different jutsu and it makes me irate.:catflip

    When was the last time Sasuke used Katon? (OG Katon not Fodderatsu)

    When was the last time Naruto used Frog Sage Mode?

    Why can't they switch it up with Naruto and Sasuke?:catdespair
     
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    The rise of katon to prominence is nice though, it's the coolest element imo and one of the reasons why I like the uchiha so much in the first place. Katon is probably the most prominent element in the manga as of now



    Against Urashiki AFAIK, dragon flame to setup Kirin and before that one shotting shin in gaiden


    I always found sasuke lacking in the non amaterasu katon department anyway, madara had far cooler katons than Sasuke ever did, even Obito's bomb blast dance was cool AF.


    Jirayas katon endan looks cool as fuck too the way he does it , probably the coolest non uchiha katon, and as furthur proved by this chapter
     
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    I mean why Sasuke would use katon with amaterasu, seems pointless.
     
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    Katon doesn't require eye periods and is as useless :doge he better not waste chakra with Fodderatsu
     
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    Why use Fodderatsu when he has yet to effectively hurt anyone with it?

    He's damaged more people with regular Katons then Fodderatsu.
     
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    Naruto already combined it with his Kurama/RM power tho... :hm
    thought that was obvious... :hmm
     
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    Because author doesnt care about NSfodders and their previous powers. And this really hurts, especially about Nardo. He turned him from one of the most versatile ninja into fodder who cant even use his great sensory skills.
     
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    It would've been cool to see Sasuke incorporate Rinnegan Jutsu alongside his EMS techniques like in Storm 4.
     
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    :blobtimistic:blobtimistic

    :blobtimistic:blobtimistic
     
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    You mean spamming the same shit in different sizes:lbj
     
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    Video Game Sasuke > Canon Sasuke
    :defeat
     
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    This is true for almost every character. Kinshki can actually split a planet in storm 4:catsupine
     
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    And amaterasu does not require hand signs and other katon are useless as well

    You people are weird with this logic.
     
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    Amaterasu requires more chakra and is as useless, so if you wanna burn something might as well use normal katon :doge

    And normal katon looks to be more spammble with multiple projectiles which makes it difficult to absorb them all at once like we saw in this fight


    BTW why does katon always require hand signs? I'm pretty sure if sasuke wanted he could do it without handsigns, far more complicated jutsu are done without handsigns tho :scoobyhuh


    Also why doesn't sasuke ever use Kagutsuchi now?


    If you're talking about the nuns4 series then almost every character has a really cool looking jutsu and ultimate move which is very flashy and probably not practical in the manga
     
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    Rin is a powerhourse using videogames
     
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    I don't know ask Sasuke, Itachi, Madara, Obito, Sarada
     
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    And with different effects.
     
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    Chidori can be done without signs but not katon? :whutpepe


    I don't get it

    Either the handsigns are kinda iconic that they are used everytime or there's something we don't know..?

    Also handsigns are near instanteous, they can be done almost as quickly as amaterasu
     
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    Even though I don’t like the fact that they have restricted naruto and sauske to limited movesets, this comparison between KK using more jutsu than the duo when they fought jigen is kind of unwarranted as this is the case of quality vs quantity.

    One justu from the duo is more powerful than any jutsu KK will produce. So though the duo did not use many of their jutsu, the jutsu they used against jigen( or delta in naruto’s case) is far more powerful and effective than the ones KK uses

    Though them using more jutsu is good and it can show their versatility and techniques so it’s always welcome
     
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    To be fair, Jiraiya always had one of the most diverse arsenals. Simply checking his jutsu dropbox on the wiki and compare to other people not named Naruto (who has dozens of fucking Rasengans) and you'd see how varied he is, so a guy that's him or a carbon copy of him having a massively diverse arsenal is normal.

    That's no excuse for stripping Naruto and Sasuke to their bare bones though. Sasuke using nothing but swordplay mixed with the occasional Ameno for the majority of a fight when was always pretty damn diverse himself is just lazy. It's why I hate the absorption thing so much. It's basically an excuse to have them basically do nothing.
     
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    Well it's slowly but steadily being countered and having weaknesses. Boro fight sarada noted down its weakness, OD info page said jutsu which use chakra but have a physical manifestation like taijutsu can't be absorbed ( like CES)

    It won't be as prominent as it is now. It gradually happens to all overused op commonplace powers like amaterasu, tsyukomi etc were in the beginning
     
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    Same old stuff since the Gaiden.

    The authors can't think of a better way for enemies to deal with the duo instead of limiting their arsenals, also why absorption powers are so prominent.
     
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    Naruto's moveset consists of shadow clones, rasengan, rasenshuriken, and bijuudama. How was he the most versatile ninja again? :scoobyhuh
     
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    Base Yomi Numa almost solo’d Jigen
     
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    Facts sad sad facts. They gimped Amaterasu. I was about to have a fit over KK when his fire attack was working. I thought it was the one he used against Konohamaru. But he seemed to summon regular fire from a place that seems like it can be mistake. For regular Katon.

    but it seems like the only way Amaterasu will ever work is if it can be produced as chakraless flames. So either some high level to. YinYang natural energy buff or Sasuke gets on some kaguya shit and create a dimension/world of Amaterasu like she had an acid world
     
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    They need to elaborate more. Because Enton vs Amaterasu has some issues like kaguya absorbing Amaterasu yet dodging chidori and enton spikes. Some techniques can be absorbed while others can’t or are more difficult to absorb.
     
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    Don't confuse diversily with versatility Naruto may have limited number of moves but he can use them for various goals and different effects in the case of Rasenshuriken.
     
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    I wonder if you can use and plant microscopic katsuyu the same way as those slugs to cover the target with acid slime which may be inflammable :pepethink
     
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    Oof, your pfp and this post reminds me, Kaguya only ever used Almighty Push in Jump Force. It would have helped her greatly to use it against Naruto and Sasuke, but she was canonically a dumbass so that never happened.
     
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    KK is from Filleruto and he is a fodder.

    But Base Jiraya too is a fodder and he have Base Yomi Numa.

    We know Base Yomi Numa solo everyone, the multiverses and their mothers :bury

    I heard rumor according Base Jiraya is linked to KK. So KK can use Base Yomi Numa.

    So he use Base Yomi Numa who solo Naruto/Sasuke.

    But KK die in crossfire.
     
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